Around The NBA: 2019-20 RESTART

dice · Post #941 » by **dice** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:13 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:It's tough to tell who has a worse jumpshot....Rondo or Westbrook. Theae guys are tough to watch in today's league.

Westbrook's jumper isn't the issue. It's that he shoots every damn thing. He has no shot selection. He just takes the shot.

both the jumper and the shot selection are the issue. he shouldn't be taking 3s at all

kodo · Post #942 » by **kodo** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:17 am

I think Russell's bball IQ is a little lower than Lavine's.

dice · Post #943 » by **dice** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:19 am

ImSlower wrote:Westbrook is such a detriment to his team. He still has all the killer instinct in the world, but he's just not good enough anymore to play hero ball.

morey's gotta be regretting that trade. at least since cp3 dominated westbrook to force a game 7 in the last series

dice · Post #944 » by **dice** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:24 am

kodo wrote:I think Russell's bball IQ is a little lower than Lavine's.

i'd go with a lot

PaKii94 · Post #945 » by **PaKii94** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:02 am

dice wrote:
kodo wrote:I think Russell's bball IQ is a little lower than Lavine's.

i'd go with a lot

With Lavine I think he tries to make the right play but is just slow compared to gamespeed. When the opportunity closes, he's left with taking a tough shot.

Westbrook as someone said previously, doesn't know shot selection

MrFortune3 · Post #946 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:08 am

dice wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
Bullflip wrote:Having a big is useless unless they have a good post game and can keep up with the 3 point shooters on the other team. Watching the Lakers and Rockets now, and there are hardly any bigs on the court. Maybe only Markieff Morris but he can shoot a 3.

Having the big isn't the issue, it's roster balance. The Lakers have nothing outside of James and Davis and Davis has not dominated in this series.

amazing to say that a 26/9 guy averaging an efficient 30/12 isn't being dominant, but they probably should be getting a bit more out of him from a volume points perspective. they should be getting him the ball regularly. it's not like he's a black hole. he can capably find the open man if doubled

He is being checked by PJ Tucker. As good and as talented as AD is, he should be the talk of this series and how dominant he is.

MrFortune3 · Post #947 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:09 am

dice wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:It's tough to tell who has a worse jumpshot....Rondo or Westbrook. Theae guys are tough to watch in today's league.

Westbrook's jumper isn't the issue. It's that he shoots every damn thing. He has no shot selection. He just takes the shot.

both the jumper and the shot selection are the issue. he shouldn't be taking 3s at all

It's more of his shot selection. He throws up shots that only Steph Curry should be taking.

jc23 · Post #948 » by **jc23** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:16 am

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wonderboy2 · Post #949 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:19 am

PaKii94 wrote:
dice wrote:
kodo wrote:I think Russell's bball IQ is a little lower than Lavine's.

i'd go with a lot

With Lavine I think he tries to make the right play but is just slow compared to gamespeed. When the opportunity closes, he's left with taking a tough shot.

Westbrook as someone said previously, doesn't know shot selection

But both players are still absolute beast though! Give me players that are dynamic that make things happen over safe players like Sato. What’s the use of having supposedly high basketball IQ if you don’t know how to or have the abilities to use it.

dice · Post #950 » by **dice** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:32 am

wonderboy2 wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
dice wrote:i'd go with a lot

With Lavine I think he tries to make the right play but is just slow compared to gamespeed. When the opportunity closes, he's left with taking a tough shot.

Westbrook as someone said previously, doesn't know shot selection

But both players are still absolute beast though! Give me players that are dynamic that make things happen over safe players like Sato. What’s the use of having supposedly high basketball IQ if you don’t know how to or have the abilities to use it.

what's the use of having dynamism if you don't have the IQ to use it effectively? or when "making things happen" means both good and bad?

wonderboy2 · Post #951 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:47 am

Players like Westbrook, and Lavine have the upmost confidence in themselves. Sometimes they take difficult shots and make tough decisions but more often than not they help their teams. Yes they may screw up sometimes but they put so much pressure on defenses. Safe players like Sato are scared to make plays, scared to shoot. Don’t have to be guarded on offense. Get targeted on defense. Like I mentioned before I have spoke with many NBA guys due to my job and Westbrook is mentioned at the top of the list of guys that are hard to guard and game plan against. Guys like Sato are only appreciated on RealGM Bulls board.

PaKii94 · Post #952 » by **PaKii94** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:52 am

dice wrote:
wonderboy2 wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
With Lavine I think he tries to make the right play but is just slow compared to gamespeed. When the opportunity closes, he's left with taking a tough shot.

Westbrook as someone said previously, doesn't know shot selection

But both players are still absolute beast though! Give me players that are dynamic that make things happen over safe players like Sato. What’s the use of having supposedly high basketball IQ if you don’t know how to or have the abilities to use it.

what's the use of having dynamism if you don't have the IQ to use it effectively? or when "making things happen" means both good and bad?

Exactly. I'd rather have a player that takes 2 possessions and makes 2 good plays vs a player taking 20 possessions and making 2 good plays.

But I'd rather have a player taking 20 possessions and making 18 good plays (cough cough Jimmy)

wonderboy2 · Post #953 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 6:06 am

PaKii94 wrote:
dice wrote:
wonderboy2 wrote:But both players are still absolute beast though! Give me players that are dynamic that make things happen over safe players like Sato. What’s the use of having supposedly high basketball IQ if you don’t know how to or have the abilities to use it.

what's the use of having dynamism if you don't have the IQ to use it effectively? or when "making things happen" means both good and bad?

Exactly. I'd rather have a player that takes 2 possessions and makes 2 good plays vs a player taking 20 possessions and making 2 good plays.

But I'd rather have a player taking 20 possessions and making 18 good plays (cough cough Jimmy)

Your first paragraph is obvious, I’m not sure what point that is trying to be made. A player that makes 2 good plays out of 20 possessions is not really a good player and not dynamic. Neither Westbrook or Lavine fit in that category. Jimmy is one of my favorite players but with that being said he still not top 10 in the NBA. I guess Sato would be the guy that falls into the 2 good plays out of 20 possessions.

MrSparkle · Post #954 » by **MrSparkle** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 3:01 pm

Westbrook can be brutal. But he does usually bounce back from a terrible game (and social media grilling).

Chi town · Post #955 » by **Chi town** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:36 pm

How do you block people again? The Sato posts are killing me.

Mbrahv0528 · Post #956 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:46 pm

Chi town wrote:How do you block people again? The Sato posts are killing me.

But he knows people man. They play for the NBA. Can't just write that off!

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Chi town · Post #957 » by **Chi town** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:26 pm

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
Chi town wrote:How do you block people again? The Sato posts are killing me.
But he knows people man. They play for the NBA. Can't just write that off!

Sent from my SM-N975U using RealGM mobile app

I'm serious. Need help!

Andi Obst · Post #958 » by **Andi Obst** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 8:14 pm

Chi town wrote:How do you block people again? The Sato posts are killing me.

Have him blocked already, I know that feeling. I basically only use RealGM on my phone and it's really easy in the app. Just click on the username and there should be an "ignore/block" option.

Andi Obst · Post #959 » by **Andi Obst** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 8:25 pm

Finally got to watch Lakers vs Rockets G2. That loss doesn't make me panic if I'm Houston. They basically lost that game in the beginning when Westbrook was at his absolute worst and the effort was poor overall (no boxing out, poor rotations on defense, careless with the ball...). After that period they looked fine to me. They really need to stop playing Westbrook when he has games like this, though. I know that's probably easier said than done for a lot of reasons, but the only thing he added on offense was rebounding (where he was really good, to be fair). Other than that, he was such a huge liability on both ends that it almost hurt to watch. During some minutes he played in the third they just had him standing around doing and adding nothing. If you don't trust him to do the things he does (and I get why you wouldn't), you have to take him out IMO.

Fun series for sure, I hope this one goes to 6 or 7.

Chi town · Post #960 » by **Chi town** » Mon Sep 7, 2020 8:50 pm

Thunder, Presti, and CP3’s health has made him an asset again even with 2/85M left on his deal. They will trade him to get another pick and tank in next years double draft.

Presti knows what he’s doing.

CP3 would be great for Coby and Zach. Just don’t believe in his health long term. He wants a chip. Bet he goes to Sixers.