Butler trade rumor - KC Johnson update: pg 63

[chitowndish]

To me the big question with Butler is he wants to be the main guy but I'm not sure if he's good enough offensively to carry a team. He seems to have a big need to do that though.

He has had a big need being on a team where he has been the best player, and the team lost games because guys worse than him had the ball more often. Sign LeBron, and I bet he'll happily be #2, competing for the NBA title.

He carried water for the Olympic team, without complaint.

I don't know, I think he really wants to be the guy and I think that is really important to him. Just the sheer volume of his leadership quotes I guess. Lots of guys are fine playing roles on olympic teams but still want to be the main guy on their teams. Like I sad I think he's earned the right too I mean what he's showing he needs the ball in his hand, he's better if he can dominate the ball and be the main guy. Those are the skills he drastically improved. I think it needs to happen for him to continue to grow just hand him the keys and see what happens. I guess overall it doesn't seem like he's trying to build the skill set to be a nice #2 option, he wants to (and thinks he can) be the best.

[Ice Man]

I think it needs to happen for him to continue to grow just hand him the keys and see what happens.

That's gonna happen, because the Rondo experiment is over, Wade checked his ego at the door, and it's the best way for this team as constructed to win games. I don't think Jimmy needs for things to be that way. But that's a theoretical discussion, unless the Bulls get another player who is better than Butler.

[chitowndish]

I think it needs to happen for him to continue to grow just hand him the keys and see what happens.

That's gonna happen, because the Rondo experiment is over, Wade checked his ego at the door, and it's the best way for this team as constructed to win games. I don't think Jimmy needs for things to be that way. But that's a theoretical discussion, unless the Bulls get another player who is better than Butler.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I think that is the primary thing that drives him and honestly one of his biggest strengths is he actually believes he can be the best. That's why he keeps breaking all these milestones. He isn't shooting to be second fiddle. He's kind of wired like Kobe and Michael in this regard IMO and I think it's what really drives him.

[Ice Man]

I think that is the primary thing that drives him and honestly one of his biggest strengths is he actually believes he can be the best. That's why he keeps breaking all these milestones. He isn't shooting to be second fiddle. He's kind of wired like Kobe and Michael in this regard IMO and I think it's what really drives him.

Well, it could be. Now that the former role player is no longer a role player, he won't go back. Possibly. But I don't think this means that he would be against the Bulls getting a superstar to join him, do you?

[JordansBulls]

Get Anthony Davis here with Jimmy

[chitowndish]

I think that is the primary thing that drives him and honestly one of his biggest strengths is he actually believes he can be the best. That's why he keeps breaking all these milestones. He isn't shooting to be second fiddle. He's kind of wired like Kobe and Michael in this regard IMO and I think it's what really drives him.

Well, it could be. Now that the former role player is no longer a role player, he won't go back. Possibly. But I don't think this means that he would be against the Bulls getting a superstar to join him, do you?

I don't think he'd have a problem getting other players like Wade but I could see him butting heads with a player that threatens his leadership of the team. Same kind of problems Kobe ran into with Shaq and Jordan really didn't have to worry about with Pippen. You surround Butler with a Robin type of superstar like Pippen and it's completely fine. If he has to play with a Shaq type that starts taking over and I do think he'd have problems with it. Again I think all three are wired similarly and would react to situations pretty similarly. Like if Jordan had to play with Shaq, Shaq would have either had to get in line or there would be problems just like there ended up being with Kobe.

[MC3]

Get Anthony Davis here with Jimmy

what do you suggest to get him. I will personally send PM message to Gar himself someway.

[MalagaBulls]

Read on Twitter

Seems like a lot of teams are deciding whether to be buyers or seller at this point. Wonder what Gar is doing right now.......

Straight chillin.

He is in his secret lab desperately trying to concoct some Billy King pills in a covert effort to slip into Ainge's drink to fleece him.

[Ralphb07]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

[MC3]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

Is this just your opinion or you heard something inside of organization?

[MalagaBulls]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

Would Gallo make the most sense now? Move JB back to SG?

[Ice Man]

Same kind of problems Kobe ran into with Shaq.

One difference is everybody seems to like Jimmy. Ain't nobody liked Kobe.

[Ralphb07]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

Would Gallo make the most sense now? Move JB back to SG?

PF for Gallo I was thinking

[Ice Man]

To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up

Yep. Sitting in the middle, not a rebuild but not a contender either, would not seem to be the right place.

[MalagaBulls]

To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up

Yep. Sitting in the middle, not a rebuild but not a contender either, would not seem to be the right place.

Need to get pieces around Jimmy period if that is the way they go.

[AKfanatic]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bulls move a player or two for an obvious upgrade. That said, I expect to see them stand pat or make a minor move and use the summer to make their push at bringing in players. This season was always destined to be a try-out season for every guy on the roster. Even Jimmy was destined to need to show the FO exactly what he is this season.

With Jimmy proving he can carry the load and put a team on his back, the FO will look to find a couple better fitting starters (center and point guard) and build their new bench mob in the off-season.


Of course if trades that are clear upgrades or that add "flexibility" for the team this off-season present themselves, moves would be made.

[CharityStripe34]

To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up

Yep. Sitting in the middle, not a rebuild but not a contender either, would not seem to be the right place.

Need to get pieces around Jimmy period if that is the way they go.

Gibson could help a contender for a mid-season rental. But what would said contender be willing to part ways with?

[AKfanatic]

Same kind of problems Kobe ran into with Shaq.

One difference is everybody seems to like Jimmy. Ain't nobody liked Kobe.

I think this could be big for the Bulls. Jimmy seems to be a guy that other players like. It will be interesting to see what FA interest the Bulls get with Jimmy as the lead guy/recruiter (along with Wade)

[Ralphb07]

Bulls need to contact Denver to try and pair Jimmy with one of them.... I fully expect something big to happen this deadline I don't see them standing pat. To me they either add serious talent to Jimmy or blow it up but I'd be shocked with status quo.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bulls move a player or two for an obvious upgrade. That said, I expect to see them stand pat or make a minor move and use the summer to make their push at bringing in players. This season was always destined to be a try-out season for every guy on the roster. Even Jimmy was destined to need to show the FO exactly what he is this season.

With Jimmy proving he can carry the load and put a team on his back, the FO will look to find a couple better fitting starters (center and point guard) and build their new bench mob in the off-season.


Of course if trades that are clear upgrades or that add "flexibility" for the team this off-season present themselves, moves would be made.

Bulls only have around 30 mil this summer so they need to do more than just wait and use that money. That's 30 mil to fill PF and PG.

[Jvaughn]

I've seen this movie too many times before. We'll stand pay at the deadline, say we didn't see any deals that blew us away, but we feel good with our flexibility. Then we will look at some waived players in a few weeks who won't play.