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Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:10 pm
by skoolboy180
5. Chicago Bulls
And here's why the Dwight Howard era makes me nervous. As I've written before, God doles out the "complete car wash package" to only a handful of athletes. We love the ones who take care of it; we resent the ones who don't. Through seven years, Howard displayed every skill except one: an ongoing thirst to dominate everyone else. Shaq drifted through his career, made excuses, only intermittently stayed in shape and made a point to care about a variety of things — not just basketball — but during the 2000, 2001 and 2002 playoffs, history will show that he annihilated everyone in his path. (Same for Hakeem in the 1994 and 1995 playoffs, Moses in the 1983 playoffs … the list goes on and on.) Dwight hasn't had that moment yet. Never jumped a level when it mattered. Never dragged his teammates to a better place, made them feel invincible, made his opponents say, "Once that guy gets going, we're helpless." If anything, those opponents swung the other way, allowed him to get his stats and concentrated on shutting down everyone else (like Atlanta did last spring).
Quite simply, it's been weird to watch. The numbers say one thing; our eyes say something else. We're watching someone take care of the "complete car wash package," but not totally. And that infamous trade list summed everything up. How could the Chicago Bulls NOT be on it?
How could Howard not be thinking, "Get me to Chicago, I could win right away!"
How could Howard be looking at this NBA landscape without saying, "Maybe it's a good idea for me to team up with Derrick Rose, the 23-year-old MVP?"
How could someone in his camp not point out to him, "Hey Dwight, if you pushed for the Bulls, they could offer Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Omer Asik, salary-cap filler and two no. 1 picks and take back your deal and Turkoglu's deal, and you'd still have Rose, Carlos Boozer, Rip Hamilton, Kyle Korver, Taj Gibson, whatever veterans they can bring in AND the best defensive coach in the league?"
And if you're picking a cold-weather team based on markets, point guards and branding opportunities, how could you pick Brooklyn (living in the shadow of the Knicks), Deron Williams, this goofy Nets ownership, a lousy supporting cast and a franchise with a sad-sack history over Chicago (the third-biggest market), Rose (better and younger than Williams), a better supporting cast, a shrewd ownership and one of the most rabid fan bases in the league?
Put it this way: If I'm Dwight Howard, I'm thinking about titles and titles only. I don't care about money — that's coming, regardless. I don't care about weather — I have to live in whatever city for only eight months a year, and I'm traveling during that entire time, anyway. I don't care about "building my brand" and all that crap — if I don't start winning titles soon, my brand is going to be "the center who's much better than every other center but can't win a title." I care only about playing in a big city, finding a team that doesn't have to demolish itself to acquire me, finding one All-Star teammate who can make my life a little easier (the Duncan to my Robinson), and winning titles. Not title … titles. I want to come out of this decade with more rings than anyone else. I want to be remembered alongside Shaq, Moses and Hakeem, not Robinson and Ewing.
If you're looking at it like that, Chicago has to be the choice. Two summers ago, I thought LeBron copped out by joining forces with his biggest rival; it just seemed peculiar that the most talented player of his generation, and possibly ever, would willingly become the Robin to someone else's Batman. Howard's trade list was peculiar for a different reason: Either he doesn't follow the league, cares about the wrong things, has the wrong people advising him, or all of the above. Because I can't imagine, for the life of me, why Dwight Howard wouldn't be scheming to become Derrick Rose's teammate right now.
As a basketball fan, I'm disappointed. As a Celtics fan, I'm delighted. Either way, the way he ignored Chicago tells me everything I need to know about Dwight Howard. Wherever he lands, that team will definitely win. I just don't know if it'll win. And neither do you.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7352957/the-ninth-day-nba-christmas**This is not the entire article, just the Bulls portion...FYI"
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:13 pm
by LoveDaBoo
I was wondering who this "Simmone" was, and then I realized it read a lot like a Simmons piece. Ah-ha!
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:13 pm
by ChiBulls09
Nice

Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 pm
by DuckIII
Everyone agrees with that except for Dwight Howard.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:17 pm
by khufure
whatever. who cares if anyone wants to come here. I think we can win with the pieces we have now. in fact that's the sweetest way to win IMO.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:18 pm
by GetBuLLish
DuckIII wrote:Everyone agrees with that except for Dwight Howard.
Yea. That kinda sucks.
LoveDaBoo wrote:I was wondering who this "Simmone" was
Somehow that's worse than how Kyrv calls Simmons "Billy." haha
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 pm
by Bluewaterheaven
khufure wrote:whatever. who cares if anyone wants to come here. I think we can win with the pieces we have now. in fact that's the sweetest way to win IMO.
With the pieces we have now, we
could win a championship or two. If we got Dwight we
would win at least three, and probably a lot more then that.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 pm
by bennjuiced34
I think it's pretty apparent that Dwight has interests other than winning and titles. He doesn't want to be in Derrick's shadow, he wants to build his brand and he is also looking at a career in acting.
Good luck with that Dwight.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:22 pm
by chifan1798
LoveDaBoo wrote:I was wondering who this "Simmone" was, and then I realized it read a lot like a Simmons piece. Ah-ha!
Yeah, the being a celtics fan was what gave it away for me, lol, then I realized it was a typo.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:24 pm
by Senor Chang
Dwight wants to be the man to avoid the same criticism Lebron got for being Robin in Miami. Derrick however is a much better fit for Dwight's game than either Wade or Bosh are to Lebron. His loss, between LA, Brooklyn, and Dallas, i don't think any of those teams + Dwight is going to stop the Bulls anytime soon. Only Miami and OKC worry me long-term.
Re: Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:25 pm
by PMONSTER
Funny thing about living in Rose's shadow is that if they were to team up and win 6 rings (calm down everyone) then I could easily see them sharing the Finals MVP awards.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by khufure
hey guys, if we could get a lineup like
drose
egordon
durant
love
howard
we'd win at least 6 titles. but our front office sucks/is cheap so it's not gonna happen..
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by GetBuLLish
khufure wrote:whatever. who cares if anyone wants to come here. I think we can win with the pieces we have now. in fact that's the sweetest way to win IMO.
I pretty much feel the same way. I know if we got Howard, I'd be happy too. But there's just something about seeing this team, as constructed, play it out. Something about reading "Noah hitting mid-range jump shots at practice" that makes me excited. Or hearing that Deng has been working even more on 3 point shooting. Or hearing that Boozer went to Amsterdam to have experimental surgery done so that he would become 5 years younger, except it turned out that the doctor was not actually a doctor but just some crazy man high out of his mind and trying to replace hair on Boozer's scalp.
It's these little things that make following the Bulls even more enjoyable.
Re: Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by JackFinn
an old joystick
Harden
Durant
Ibaka. Or not. Who cares.
Howard
Paul/Williams
Billups/Foye
Butler
A guy. Named Chaz Bono.
Howard
Rose
Hamilton/Korver
Brewer
Boozer/Taj
Howard
No one. Just 4 players on the court.
Wade
James.
Actually, scratch that. 3 players.
Howard
Dwight did not include these teams in his list. He did this because *and then I say something that somehow makes a semblance of sense*
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:33 pm
by kyrv
khufure wrote:hey guys, if we could get a lineup like
drose
egordon
durant
love
howard
we'd win at least 6 titles. but our front office sucks/is cheap so it's not gonna happen..
Is this too big for a sig?
This is awesome.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:34 pm
by LoveDaBoo
Senor Chang wrote:Dwight wants to be the man to avoid the same criticism Lebron got for being Robin in Miami. Derrick however is a much better fit for Dwight's game than either Wade or Bosh are to Lebron. His loss, between LA, Brooklyn, and Dallas, i don't think any of those teams + Dwight is going to stop the Bulls anytime soon. Only Miami and OKC worry me long-term.
The real tragedy here is this: Dwight on the Bulls would be a force capable of shutting the three homogoes out of the Finals. Could there be anything more awesome in the history of humanity than the Heat teaming up, losing in the finals in their first season, and then being shut out of the finals by another superteam formed the following year?
Re: Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:35 pm
by kulaz3000
Another thing, I've mentioned previously even when we had the hope of courting LeBron or even Wade was that if it's the spotlight that Dwight so deseperately desires and feels that he won't get that with Rose being around, he is a damn fool.
Can anyone imagine Rose complaining or being disgruntled if Dwight were to garner all the attention, well at least from the media and fans as long as they are winning? I highly doubt that. As much as Rose seemingly has opened up to the media more recently, he is still a reluctant public figure in my opinion, and he could thrive with a personality like Dwight by his side. Allow Dwight to be the public face, allow him to play the silly clown so he can just go about his business and win, win and win.
Re: Simmone: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:38 pm
by suckfish
DuckIII wrote:Everyone agrees with that except for Dwight Howard.
I don't see how this will be an obstacle..
Re: Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:41 pm
by jc23
As a basketball fan, I'm disappointed. As a Celtics fan, I'm delighted. Either way, the way he ignored Chicago tells me everything I need to know about Dwight Howard. Wherever he lands, that team will definitely win. I just don't know if it'll win. And neither do you.
and there it is.
Re: Simmons: Why Bulls Should be Dwight's #1 Choice
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:43 pm
by blumeany
kulaz3000 wrote:Another thing, I've mentioned previously even when we had the hope of courting LeBron or even Wade was that if it's the spotlight that Dwight so deseperately desires and feels that he won't get that with Rose being around, he is a damn fool.
Can anyone imagine Rose complaining or being disgruntled if Dwight were to garner all the attention, well at least from the media and fans as long as they are winning? I highly doubt that. As much as Rose seemingly has opened up to the media more recently, he is still a reluctant public figure in my opinion, and he could thrive with a personality like Dwight by his side. Allow Dwight to be the public face, allow him to play the silly clown so he can just go about his business and win, win and win.
Exactly! Howard could not ask for a better superstar teammate. Rose would gladly step into the shadows and let Dwight do all the talking. As Rose has said ad nauseum: "I just want to wiiiin"