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Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:39 pm
by The Explorer
They've had 54 games to do it, and now they have 28 to show they can put it all together in time to be ready for the likes of the Wizards, who have had their number going back to last year's playoffs; LeBron James and the ubertalented Cavaliers; a skilled and underrated Toronto Raptors team; and an Atlanta Hawks team that has beaten the Bulls twice this season while confounding pretty much the entire NBA.

There's nothing to suggest the Bulls can't beat any of those teams in the playoffs if they play the way they did in beating the Spurs, Mavericks and Warriors in a four-game span at the end of January or in the four games leading up to the All-Star break, including the win over Cleveland. The question now, beginning with the resumption of play Friday night in Detroit, is how urgently the Bulls perceive all this and how capable they are of doing something about it.



As has been the case for the past seven years, it all begins with Rose, who played far better through those first 54 games (appearing in 43 of them) than reasonable people should have expected. Rose shot too many 3s, turned the ball over too much and steadily increased his minutes, his impact and his understanding of how to incorporate Gasol and a dramatically improved Butler and how to play with another shooting point guard in Aaron Brooks, all the while figuring out what his knees will or will not tolerate after serious injuries and so much downtime.

The four-game stretch Rose just finished was probably his best since 2012. His per-game averages of 20.8 points, 48.6 percent shooting (26.7 percent on 3s), 78.6 percent foul shooting and 7.2 assists to 1.8 turnovers is close to ideal, particularly when you factor in the way he has figured out new ways to effectively attack defenses without returning to his reckless ways from 2008 to 2011. The Derrick Rose from 2011, who thrilled people to no end, is necessarily gone. The Rose we saw during the past four games picks his spots to blast to the basket since he is still capable of doing so, runs the pick-and-roll with Gasol, plays off the ball some with Brooks on the floor and gears down to let Butler take the offensive lead for stretches.

Expecting Rose to maintain those four-game averages is a bit much, but if he can remain healthy (has played 16 straight games and 27 of 28), his next 43 games, which would take him 15 games into the postseason, figure to be consistently better than the 43 to date.


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Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:51 pm
by NecessaryEvil
43 out of 54 games on the season for D-Rose with no signs of slowing down. Kid is amazing.

Love Wilbon, wish he wrote more articles

Snell & McD are the x-factors of the next half of the season. If we can get the production we thought we would, we're sitting comfortably in the NBA Finals this season. I believe it.

10 mpg for Hinrich the rest of the season PLS. Matter of fact, sit him until the playoffs. I think we'd get one of his last good runs with the right recovery time.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:04 pm
by DuckIII
He is such a jock sniffer.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:13 pm
by NZB2323
My 2 favorite plays of the last game where plays where Rose threatened to score, passed the ball to Gasol, Gasol threatened to score, and then passed the ball to Rose who scored. It's such a better offense than to have Rose dribble to the 3-point line and shoot or give the ball to Gasol in the paint and have him go one-on-one. Really, this board has been too critical of a team that has been dealing with injuries, rust, and new players all season. Will we win it all this year? Probably not, but we have a chance.

EDIT: The Raptors are not underrated. They are a bad defensive team and the Bulls, Cavs, Hawks, and Wizards are all better.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:30 pm
by drbg43
Real talk.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:36 pm
by BeatDaCavs420
DuckIII wrote:He is such a jock sniffer.

Not Always

Wilbon always calls it like he sees it with the Bulls sometimes

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:42 pm
by ATRAIN53
Good read, saw it earlier.


They are the team best equipped to make LeBron work overtime defensively in a series (having to guard Butler, Dunleavy and Snell). They are the team in the East best suited to exploit Atlanta's lack of size and a real rim protector.


That's the key - Snellycat and Butler making LeBron play D. They have both had some success guarding LeBron as well so when he dials it up another notch in the playoffs, they know what to expect.

Jimmy never looked like he was being a LeBron fanboy over the ASG weekend. He gave me the 'Im gonna steal that fools lunch' feeling when ever I saw him on the floor with LeBron.

Jimmy is not intimidated by him. I think Lu always was.

Sam Smith nailed it last week about how big that game last Wed was for the stretch run.

I love Wilbon in our corner, guy is truly a Bulls fan to the core.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:44 pm
by nrockwaychicago
Good article. Wilbon is pretty hit or miss for me, but the dude is knowledgable and knows how to write. On point with this one.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:18 pm
by malcrk
I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:21 pm
by Mobby
NecessaryEvil wrote:43 out of 54 games on the season for D-Rose with no signs of slowing down. Kid is amazing.

Love Wilbon, wish he wrote more articles

Snell & McD are the x-factors of the next half of the season. If we can get the production we thought we would, we're sitting comfortably in the NBA Finals this season. I believe it.

10 mpg for Hinrich the rest of the season PLS. Matter of fact, sit him until the playoffs. I think we'd get one of his last good runs with the right recovery time.


Agreed. If those two can step up (or keep it up, perhaps, in the case of Snell), we're looking quite good.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:21 pm
by red222
malcrk wrote:I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.

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Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:24 pm
by malcrk
red222 wrote:
malcrk wrote:I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.

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If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:27 pm
by red222
malcrk wrote:
red222 wrote:
malcrk wrote:I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.

Image

If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.
who the **** cares man :lol:

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:31 pm
by chifan1798
malcrk wrote:
red222 wrote:
malcrk wrote:I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.

Image

If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.

Opportunists? If that's the case, the vast majority of champions are "opportunists". If you want the team to stand out historically, that's not going to happen, and it certainly doesn't happen to every team either. The last historical type team I could think of is the 3 peat Lakers of the early 2000's, and if not them, then the bulls. Not even San Antonio has that "special" team feel to me because they've never dominated enough to win back to back, but were very steady though. They're great, but not as special.

I just don't get how the bulls are opportunists if they win, and play the teams that they were supposed to.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:35 pm
by malcrk
red222 wrote:
malcrk wrote:
red222 wrote:Image

If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.
who the **** cares man :lol:

seemingly the entire premise of the article you didn't read.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:39 pm
by NecessaryEvil
malcrk wrote:I sorta agree but I feel like even if we won it all it wouldn't have felt like a special season. It's been too bordering on disaster for it to create that feeling. Special seasons are like when the White Sox won it all and you felt after two weeks it was their year. This year feels odd in the sense that no one would be surprised if we got swept in the first round but no one would be too surprised if we won the championship. We're sort of that team that's just there in the picture but it doesn't have a special feeling anymore. It'd be a lot more like that Dallas championship team if anything.


The Dallas title was irrelevant to the world because the Heat were expected to prevail and it was only Dallas FIRST title ( LBJ gave that series away btw )

If the Bulls win #7, It will be a celebration across the globe. It's hard to hate the Bulls. White Sox aren't exactly the Bulls globally either.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:40 pm
by red222
malcrk wrote:
red222 wrote:
malcrk wrote:If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.
who the **** cares man :lol:

seemingly the entire premise of the article you didn't read.

Admitedly I didn't read it but it isn't difficult to understand from the small excerpt posted that a special season=championship. Most teams who win have bumps in the road tho.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:46 pm
by jumpstart
do you guys consider mike wilbon our mr chicago? Like, he's the our spokesperson who represents us and has our back. Did espn craftily give him this title? Sort of like cornhieser and the new York market? Haha

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:09 pm
by DuckIII
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:He is such a jock sniffer.

Not Always

Wilbon always calls it like he sees it with the Bulls sometimes


I wasn't referring to the Bulls as a whole. I was referring to Rose.

As has been the case for the past seven years, it all begins with Rose, who played far better through those first 54 games (appearing in 43 of them) than reasonable people should have expected. Rose shot too many 3s, turned the ball over too much and steadily increased his minutes, his impact and his understanding of how to incorporate Gasol and a dramatically improved Butler and how to play with another shooting point guard in Aaron Brooks, all the while figuring out what his knees will or will not tolerate after serious injuries and so much downtime.


I.e., any criticism of Rose's play this season has been inherently unreasonable. And its hard for point guards to play with allstar big men and shooting guards, dontchaknow. So get off his back, he's fine! See?

The four-game stretch Rose just finished was probably his best since 2012. His per-game averages of 20.8 points, 48.6 percent shooting (26.7 percent on 3s), 78.6 percent foul shooting and 7.2 assists to 1.8 turnovers is close to ideal


Told ya, he's been ideal . . . . the last four games.

Expecting Rose to maintain those four-game averages is a bit much, but if he can remain healthy (has played 16 straight games and 27 of 28), his next 43 games, which would take him 15 games into the postseason, figure to be consistently better than the 43 to date.


But hey, hold the horses there, no pressure Derrick, of course. No one expects you to keep playing well, except for all those unreasonable folks. You just stay healthy and play a little better than you did the first 43 games when you were borderline average, and everything's okey-dokey! (Please return my calls about that book deal.)

He is to Rose what Stephen A. Smith is to Melo. But probably worse.

Re: Wilbon: Special Season Still Within Reach

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:10 pm
by DuckIII
malcrk wrote:If the Bulls won the championship this year about 0 people would care outside of Chicago except for the global fans who are still fans from the 90s. We're a **** and if somehow that resulted in a championship I'd be happy as hell but no one would look back at us as a great team, but rather opportunists.


If it ain't 73-9, who needs it is what I say.