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Post#1 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:16 pm

So with Sacramento pick most likely gone..what would you guys go after in draft,PG or C?
With all the health issues with Rose , I would go after PG.. Wright if will be available at 20-21 spot..
We need backup C badly as well for the future and we should consider getting Embiid from Sixers,if he is really available..
Taj and 1st rounder for Embiid?
Next season to start..
Rose, Wright, Hinrich
Butler, MLE veteran
Snell, McDermott
Gasol, Mirotic, Bairstow?
Noah, Embiid, veteran minimum deal
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Post#2 » by MC3 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:23 pm

You go for the best talent there is left at the draft.
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Post#3 » by Mbrahv0528 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:26 pm

Why is the Sac pick gone? And Embiid isn't available. That was a misinterpreted tweet/quote that people ran with. He sure as hell isn't available for Taj.
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Post#4 » by kulaz3000 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:44 pm

Mbrahv0528 wrote:Why is the Sac pick gone? And Embiid isn't available. That was a misinterpreted tweet/quote that people ran with. He sure as hell isn't available for Taj.


Yep, the most likelihood is that it's dead, but they just beat the Grizzlies and with Karl, you just never know if he can light are fire underneath them and finish the season strong. With how horrendous they've drafted in the past couple years, I don't think their goal is to get as high a pick as possible, but to actually start winning and build some momentum towards next season and that would be great for us.

At this stage, it's still somewhat of a long shot, but it wouldn't shock me either with Karl at the helm that they finish the season strong and put themselves around that 8-12 pick range, and then we'll have to get a little lucky and hope that certain teams just begin to blatantly lose games.
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Post#5 » by Madhouse » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:44 pm

We could trade McDermott, Snell and Mirotic and a 1st rounder for Embiid.
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Post#6 » by Mech Engineer » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:04 pm

Don't the Bulls have enough experience with injury prone stars to go after Embiid? It is one thing if a player gets injured after you draft him.

But, to acquire a known injured player and regardless of his salary build with him as a major piece is not going to happen.
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Post#7 » by vxmike » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:28 pm

Best player available. You can always make trades afterwards. They aren't drafting guys who are going to come in and start on day #1 anyways so drafting for need is silly.
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Post#8 » by bullsRlife » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:38 pm

Agree with BPA. You never know when you get a diamond in the rough, while you're stuck with whatever mediocre PG/C you drafted, because of need.
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Post#9 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:50 am

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Post#10 » by bullboy18 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:06 am

Madhouse wrote:We could trade McDermott, Snell and Mirotic and a 1st rounder for Embiid.


That is a horrible trade. Do not want to give up all our young talent for an already injury prone big who will take 3 years to be a good nba big even if he stayed healthy.
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Post#11 » by othawhitemeat » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:29 am

Always draft for bpa, especially for mid to late first. Even though we have similar players, really like Frank Kaminsky. Solid finds can be Xaris Lavert, Jerian Grant, a little small but solid pg in Tus Jones, a good talent but cannot shoot in Delon Wright. Late first or early second Players such as the shorter Yogi Ferrell and shooter Buddy Yield in similarity to Jodie Meeks.
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Post#12 » by clancyphile » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:37 am

I'd look at Tyler Haws:
Averaging 22.4 points per game on a 59.2 true-shooting percentage, there has arguably not been a better scorer outside of Doug McDermott over that period. And crazier yet, Haws does all of this with a game that is centered around excelling as a shooting guard in the midrange, which is something of a lost art in this age of analytic analysis.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ng-history

He's hit 38.4% of his threes, as well.

C'mon, what's not to like about this guy?

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Post#13 » by othawhitemeat » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:42 am

clancyphile wrote:I'd look at Tyler Haws:
Averaging 22.4 points per game on a 59.2 true-shooting percentage, there has arguably not been a better scorer outside of Doug McDermott over that period. And crazier yet, Haws does all of this with a game that is centered around excelling as a shooting guard in the midrange, which is something of a lost art in this age of analytic analysis.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ng-history

He's hit 38.4% of his threes, as well.

C'mon, what's not to like about this guy?

:D


Don't like his game in the pros. Not very athletic, plays jack it up style. Doug is very skilled and faced all kinds of attention in different sets. Tyus jones seems like a pax player to me.
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Post#14 » by RebuildaBulls » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:02 am

Madhouse wrote:We could trade McDermott, Snell and Mirotic and a 1st rounder for Embiid.


Maybe if you're a 76ers fan, but for Bulls thats horrible!!!
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Post#15 » by RebuildaBulls » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:05 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:So with Sacramento pick most likely gone..what would you guys go after in draft,PG or C?
With all the health issues with Rose , I would go after PG.. Wright if will be available at 20-21 spot..
We need backup C badly as well for the future and we should consider getting Embiid from Sixers,if he is really available..
Taj and 1st rounder for Embiid?
Next season to start..
Rose, Wright, Hinrich
Butler, MLE veteran
Snell, McDermott
Gasol, Mirotic, Bairstow?
Noah, Embiid, veteran minimum deal


Bulls would need to give up much more than Taj and our 1st rounder for Embid.
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Post#16 » by clancyphile » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:13 am

othawhitemeat wrote:
clancyphile wrote:I'd look at Tyler Haws:
Averaging 22.4 points per game on a 59.2 true-shooting percentage, there has arguably not been a better scorer outside of Doug McDermott over that period. And crazier yet, Haws does all of this with a game that is centered around excelling as a shooting guard in the midrange, which is something of a lost art in this age of analytic analysis.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ng-history

He's hit 38.4% of his threes, as well.

C'mon, what's not to like about this guy?

:D


Don't like his game in the pros. Not very athletic, plays jack it up style. Doug is very skilled and faced all kinds of attention in different sets. Tyus jones seems like a pax player to me.


I like his 3-point percentage, and he's scored a ton of points. Plus, they're comparing him to McDermott. I think he'd be a good fit for Thibs. Wouldn't hurt to have that sort of scoring threat in case McDermott doesn't pan out. If McDermott does... well, can you have too many three-point shooters?

That said, I like Kyle Collinsworth a lot more, but he's not gonna be available until the 2016 draft.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kyle-collinsworth

That guy had FIVE triple-doubles so far this season, and he had a bunch of double-doubles last year. I think he could be the Hinrich replacement.
http://byucougars.com/athlete/m-basketb ... llinsworth
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Post#17 » by othawhitemeat » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:28 am

clancyphile wrote:
othawhitemeat wrote:
clancyphile wrote:I'd look at Tyler Haws:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ng-history

He's hit 38.4% of his threes, as well.

C'mon, what's not to like about this guy?

:D


Don't like his game in the pros. Not very athletic, plays jack it up style. Doug is very skilled and faced all kinds of attention in different sets. Tyus jones seems like a pax player to me.


Do like collinsworth though..


I like his 3-point percentage, and he's scored a ton of points. Plus, they're comparing him to McDermott. I think he'd be a good fit for Thibs. Wouldn't hurt to have that sort of scoring threat in case McDermott doesn't pan out. If McDermott does... well, can you have too many three-point shooters?

That said, I like Kyle Collinsworth a lot more, but he's not gonna be available until the 2016 draft.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kyle-collinsworth

That guy had FIVE triple-doubles so far this season, and he had a bunch of double-doubles last year. I think he could be the Hinrich replacement.
http://byucougars.com/athlete/m-basketb ... llinsworth
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Post#18 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:03 am

Yeah,it doesnt matter who we draft that much, PG or C.he wont play more than 10-15min per game,at best.. but for the future it might be good investment..
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Post#19 » by BullsFTW » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:35 am

Use Taj to move up and get a Center.

Cauley-Stein, Poeltl, and Turner are reasonable options.
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Post#20 » by [e] » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:11 am

BullsFTW wrote:Use Taj to move up and get a Center.

Cauley-Stein, Poeltl, and Turner are reasonable options.

If Taj has to go, I'd be on board with this.

BPA really. A backup PG isn't a terrible idea, but we've had lots of luck with cheap pgs. I'd lean more towards best big available.

Nazr, probably retire?
Bairstow, meh

Noah and Taj will both be 30 by draft time, Pau 35. Nikola is the future. Noah and/or Taj might be able play at a high level as they age, heck maybe Pau can drink from the same fountain as Duncan...

We've got JB, Snell, and McDermott for 'young' wings.

Of course the team could decide to pair our pick and Snell and move up to grab a wing they like? Or use the future Kings pick?

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