15-16 Salary Cap & Luxury Tax projection released - Bulls offseason budget

keloms · Post #1 » by **keloms** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:55 pm

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Assuming that Bulls re-sign Butler and he gets the max, Hinrich takes his option, and Moore's contract isn't guaranteed, Bulls situation should look pretty close to this

Post #2 » by **Rerisen** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:12 pm

Under the tax!

dumbell78 · Post #3 » by **dumbell78** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:22 pm

Man that was close!

Red Folder · Post #4 » by **Red Folder** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:34 pm

I'm guessing it's a pretty sure thing that Taj gets traded, That puts us down to about $72 million +/- whatever player/pick we get back for Taj.

MC3 · Post #5 » by **MC3** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:01 pm

Red Folder wrote:I'm guessing it's a pretty sure thing that Taj gets traded, That puts us down to about $72 million +/- whatever player/pick we get back for Taj.

I am betting on Noah.

But we forget June 25 is date which will give us answer in which direction are Bulls heading for next few years. Drafting C means, we are moving from our core, specially Noah into frontcourt rebuild who will be with Mirotic as young piece core of franchise. Gasol as veteran presence on good contract and Taj who is willing to play and be bench player. That's better than hobbled Noah on 13 millions and can't be starter. Taj doesnt have knee injures history and he is on better contract.

Drafting PG is move in which current direction Bulls are going according to luxury tax and cap. Cause if we dont do this, they will sign again undersized guy who will again depend with Derrick's health. And again will be how FO sucks cause they didnt address the issue. And Hinrich isnt option. If he already sucks now, wait to see him next year.

maynardo · Post #6 » by **maynardo** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:02 pm

That player option in kurt's contract is really gonna suck, 'cause basically means he has a No-Trade clause, almost 3 mill in untradable dead weight.

With how bad Jo has looked and how old Pau is, I don't think it's a very good idea to trade Taj unless you can get a rotation big for less money in the trade.

Post #7 » by **coldfish** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Random comments:
- Rose's max in 2017 will be 5 years $185M. Lebron's max will be almost $210M.
- The Bulls will be able to add $46M in salary between 2015 and 2017 without paying the tax. Repeater tax is virtually impossible. Anyone bringing it up on this board should be instantly banned as a front office plant.
- Even if the Bulls sign Jimmy to a max deal, the Bulls will have roughly $80M in capspace in 2017.
- Question: Can the Bulls come to a verbal agreement with Jimmy on a max deal, use the full MLE and then sign Jimmy? That would give them $5M but would have them paying the tax (I know. The horror!)
- Please, please, please don't act like this is somehow a financial problem for the Bulls. Only 50% of the revenue goes to the players. The Bulls get a lot of money to both cover the increases in salary cap AND go in their pockets on top of their already near league leading profits.

Just a guess, the Bulls will pay the tax next year. They would really have to hurt the team to avoid it.

aramada · Post #8 » by **aramada** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Aren't we supposed to have 13 players on the roster? I count 12

aramada · Post #9 » by **aramada** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:29 pm

If they are under the tax, they can use the non-tax payer MLE if they stay under the apron, which is 5M over the lux tax threshold. By doing so, they also get hard capped at the apron

TheStig · Post #10 » by **TheStig** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:00 am

The Bulls should really keep the cast together, sign another min PG and spend the MLE on a wing. We can afford the tax for a year.

Shill · Post #11 » by **Shill** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:04 am

Hinrich has a player option for next season???

Christ...

musiqsoulchild · Post #12 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:06 am

We should keep Taj for next season.

Red Larrivee · Post #13 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:13 am

Shill wrote:Hinrich has a player option for next season???

Christ...

whodey · Post #14 » by **whodey** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:20 am

No excuse not to pay the tax after the increase that's projected for 2016-17 and 2017-18. I doubt we get into the tax in those seasons. We need to bite the bullet for next season because flexibility will be plentiful in the 2 seasons following.

Mech Engineer · Post #15 » by **Mech Engineer** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:28 am

TheStig wrote:The Bulls should really keep the cast together, sign another min PG and spend the MLE on a wing. We can afford the tax for a year.

I think so too. They will ride this cast for one more year and then make massive changes if necessary. Thst coincides with the Noah/Gasol contracts and Taj/Rose will have ending contracts.

They need to put insurance around Derrick though. You cannot put the PG duties on Kirk/Brooks type PGs.

It is a fine line between getting an expensive PG who will not want to be a backup and midget PG who is not good enough

aaqubed · Post #16 » by **aaqubed** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:35 am

coldfish wrote:- Question: Can the Bulls come to a verbal agreement with Jimmy on a max deal, use the full MLE and then sign Jimmy? That would give them $5M but would have them paying the tax (I know. The horror!)

If we use the MLE, whether we do so before or after we sign Jimmy, we are hardcapped at the apron. So that means we would need to keep our total salary below the apron, which I'm not sure we'd be able to do with Jimmy at the max. We might be able to if we don't bring back Dunleavy, Moore, or Brooks but it would be tight.

achimho · Post #17 » by **achimho** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:01 am

Wouldn't Butlers max be at 25% of the cap (1st year)? So just under $16.8million?

TheStig · Post #18 » by **TheStig** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:07 am

Mech Engineer wrote:
TheStig wrote:The Bulls should really keep the cast together, sign another min PG and spend the MLE on a wing. We can afford the tax for a year.

I think so too. They will ride this cast for one more year and then make massive changes if necessary. Thst coincides with the Noah/Gasol contracts and Taj/Rose will have ending contracts.

They need to put insurance around Derrick though. You cannot put the PG duties on Kirk/Brooks type PGs.

It is a fine line between getting an expensive PG who will not want to be a backup and midget PG who is not good enough

It's hard to get a good pg like that for cheap but I think a Mo Williams or even a Jeremy Lin could be had for the BAE.

RebuildaBulls · Post #19 » by **RebuildaBulls** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:23 am

Bulls arent trading Noah, Gasol is old and behind him Bulls dont have anything really. But for PF there is Taj and Niko, Im betting Taj is the one traded if anyone. But I believe this team will be even better next season after a full year of playing together. Unless the Cavs get a few more allstars then time to start tinkering

Post #20 » by **dougthonus** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:25 am

coldfish wrote:- Question: Can the Bulls come to a verbal agreement with Jimmy on a max deal, use the full MLE and then sign Jimmy? That would give them $5M but would have them paying the tax (I know. The horror!)

You are hard capped at the Apron if you use the full MLE which effectively makes the order irrelevant. If they could fit Jimmy and a max under the apron it doesn't matter which they do first.

Just a guess, the Bulls will pay the tax next year. They would really have to hurt the team to avoid it.

I wouldn't be surprised either way. Seems likely they could trade one of their bigs to "make room for Mirotic" and then they have a ton of room. You could even make the case this is a good idea. It's also hard to argue with the idea of keeping their depth or trading that big for another player who is good and thus has a respectable salary.