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Mbrahv0528 wrote:

IcemanGervin wrote:

Mbrahv0528 wrote:Very highly regarded prospect..but He's only 17. Likely won't make an impact for many years (if at all). Also the Padres are a DISASTER this year and are hitting the reset button all over again..Shields had to go.

This has been the sox problem my entire life. It sucks but my god sometimes you have to wait for things in life. They have always tried to fill leaking holes will bubblegum and the dam bursts every single year. I was just thinking in my car today at work, in my entire lifetime of white sox baseball I cannot remember 1 single exciting homegrown position player prospect to come up through our system and become a bonafide superstar in the league. I'm 26 so I guess this would apply post-Frank Thomas.

Magglio Ordonez is pretty much it post Big Hurt. The Org needs a complete tear down from the top to bottom. I went from complete excitement for this season in April to complete disinterest in the span of 3 **** weeks. 6-20 in our last 26 games. Good grief .

dice wrote:so we're not gonna get that crosstown world series this year, huh?

JordansBulls wrote:

dice wrote:so we're not gonna get that crosstown world series this year, huh?

Man we were up like 10 games in the standings now back 3.5 games.

dice wrote:

JordansBulls wrote:

dice wrote:so we're not gonna get that crosstown world series this year, huh?

Man we were up like 10 games in the standings now back 3.5 games.

seriously? knew the sox were doing well early in the season but today was the first time i've checked the standings

ADDinChicago wrote:

fleet wrote:that Tatis kid must have been good to get the Padres to pay all that Shields salary

A lot also had to do with San Diego's ownership group already hitting the panic button. The winter of 2015, they spent a ton of money on high priced free agents and made quite a few trades, only to still be bad. A.J. Preller (Padres' GM) is working for one of the most hands on owners in sports, who lately, has been pretty short fused on things. He called out the team, and Shields by name, last week. So you kinda had a feeling something was coming. Ron Fowler, also basically said nothing of beyond when Preller's deal expires in 2018. It's a mess down there. No matter what they've done, they can't get out of the basement. They have a beautiful park, but it's not being filled. It's almost like the Marlins, except they're a very bad team. With Shields, they were willing to eat money if it meant he was gone. It was never a good signing for them, but they were, as usual, under pressure to add names.

But yes, Tatis is becoming a more touted prospect, and probably the best one the White Sox made available (Tim Anderson & Carson Fullmer, etc. are virtually untouchable unless it was a megastar coming back in a deal), but as said before, he is primarily a SS and the Sox have that locked up when they eventually decide to call up Tim Anderson. But you can't get a straight answer on that time table. And they have said no matter how bad Jimmy Rollins & Tyler Saladino get, that won't speed up Anderson's time table to get to the big (which is not new for the Sox or most teams, they've said the same about Fullmer).

Wont PerDont wrote:

ADDinChicago wrote:

fleet wrote:that Tatis kid must have been good to get the Padres to pay all that Shields salary

A lot also had to do with San Diego's ownership group already hitting the panic button. The winter of 2015, they spent a ton of money on high priced free agents and made quite a few trades, only to still be bad. A.J. Preller (Padres' GM) is working for one of the most hands on owners in sports, who lately, has been pretty short fused on things. He called out the team, and Shields by name, last week. So you kinda had a feeling something was coming. Ron Fowler, also basically said nothing of beyond when Preller's deal expires in 2018. It's a mess down there. No matter what they've done, they can't get out of the basement. They have a beautiful park, but it's not being filled. It's almost like the Marlins, except they're a very bad team. With Shields, they were willing to eat money if it meant he was gone. It was never a good signing for them, but they were, as usual, under pressure to add names.

But yes, Tatis is becoming a more touted prospect, and probably the best one the White Sox made available (Tim Anderson & Carson Fullmer, etc. are virtually untouchable unless it was a megastar coming back in a deal), but as said before, he is primarily a SS and the Sox have that locked up when they eventually decide to call up Tim Anderson. But you can't get a straight answer on that time table. And they have said no matter how bad Jimmy Rollins & Tyler Saladino get, that won't speed up Anderson's time table to get to the big (which is not new for the Sox or most teams, they've said the same about Fullmer).

They just called up Anderson (designated Rollins for assignment).

RememberLu wrote:They're making some changes at least but it all feels very futile

ADDinChicago wrote:

Wont PerDont wrote:

ADDinChicago wrote:
A lot also had to do with San Diego's ownership group already hitting the panic button. The winter of 2015, they spent a ton of money on high priced free agents and made quite a few trades, only to still be bad. A.J. Preller (Padres' GM) is working for one of the most hands on owners in sports, who lately, has been pretty short fused on things. He called out the team, and Shields by name, last week. So you kinda had a feeling something was coming. Ron Fowler, also basically said nothing of beyond when Preller's deal expires in 2018. It's a mess down there. No matter what they've done, they can't get out of the basement. They have a beautiful park, but it's not being filled. It's almost like the Marlins, except they're a very bad team. With Shields, they were willing to eat money if it meant he was gone. It was never a good signing for them, but they were, as usual, under pressure to add names.

But yes, Tatis is becoming a more touted prospect, and probably the best one the White Sox made available (Tim Anderson & Carson Fullmer, etc. are virtually untouchable unless it was a megastar coming back in a deal), but as said before, he is primarily a SS and the Sox have that locked up when they eventually decide to call up Tim Anderson. But you can't get a straight answer on that time table. And they have said no matter how bad Jimmy Rollins & Tyler Saladino get, that won't speed up Anderson's time table to get to the big (which is not new for the Sox or most teams, they've said the same about Fullmer).

They just called up Anderson (designated Rollins for assignment).

I saw that. Perhaps Hahn was just giving the "usual speech" when talking about Anderson the other day. Or it could just be Rollins is done and they have nothing to lose by bringing up Anderson.

Wont PerDont wrote:

ADDinChicago wrote:

Wont PerDont wrote:They just called up Anderson (designated Rollins for assignment).

I saw that. Perhaps Hahn was just giving the "usual speech" when talking about Anderson the other day. Or it could just be Rollins is done and they have nothing to lose by bringing up Anderson.

Wasn't calling you out, brother. Just think it's funny how FO spin goes from "nothing is going to rush his development..." to a pre-break call up after you DFA your veteran starters corpse when you lose 20 of 25.

Wont PerDont wrote:

ADDinChicago wrote:

Wont PerDont wrote:They just called up Anderson (designated Rollins for assignment).

I saw that. Perhaps Hahn was just giving the "usual speech" when talking about Anderson the other day. Or it could just be Rollins is done and they have nothing to lose by bringing up Anderson.

Wasn't calling you out, brother. Just think it's funny how FO spin goes from "nothing is going to rush his development..." to a pre-break call up after you DFA your veteran starters corpse when you lose 20 of 25.

RedBulls83 wrote:I think the smart thing to do is if Ventura won't stop playing bad players, then get rid of them.

I'm happy with the moves that Hahn made today.

Hopefully in the off-season they can get rid of Ventura. Still got to hold out hope on that.