Around the NBA : 2017/18 Season

Post #1401 » by **fleet** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:21 am

Dan Z wrote:
fleet wrote:
Nurkic hmmmm

Are you suggesting The Bulls go after him in 2018?

Nurkic, Porter, Lauri (IDK where Niko is) sounds like it has some good potential. Contract rules are over my level of understanding. If poison pills are still able to he used etc. Or awkward to match offers if you will, an interesting question. I don't like the idea of paying Lavine a mega contract right now. Maybe my mind will change this year we will see.

Post #1402 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:35 am

I like Nurk and would weigh both he and Noel up in RFA, IF we draft Doncic. Probably lean further towards Nurkic, actually.

If we take a big I'm not interested in spending that money when our front-court will be set for the future anyway, though.

TheSuzerain · Post #1403 » by **TheSuzerain** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:49 am

Investing big $$$ in Bigs is just not a smart strategy these days.

Big time pass on Nurkic.

Noel I could perhaps be talked into. I expect Noel's market will be a bit soft (Biyombo territory), and I could be talked into that.

Post #1404 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:57 am

Here's a name I haven't seen mentioned - Elfrid Payton. If we take a big in the draft, perhaps Payton might be worth having a crack at in RFA if Dunn and Grant don't improve.

Obviously the big issue is the lack of a jumpshot, but other than that I think he's a great compliment to someone like LaVine in the back-court. Good size, great passer, rebounder, driver, defender.

Having a PG that isn't a good shooter in this league is a big concern, but if you're PF and SG are elite shooters (LaVine/Lauri), and your C can shoot it (Bagley/Ayton are good shooters), and your SF is alright, it should work out.

Not necessarily advocating for him but just exploring the idea of someone we haven't really brought up.

Hangtime84 · Post #1405 » by **Hangtime84** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:56 am

GimmeDat wrote:Here's a name I haven't seen mentioned - Elfrid Payton. If we take a big in the draft, perhaps Payton might be worth having a crack at in RFA if Dunn and Grant don't improve.

Obviously the big issue is the lack of a jumpshot, but other than that I think he's a great compliment to someone like LaVine in the back-court. Good size, great passer, rebounder, driver, defender.

Having a PG that isn't a good shooter in this league is a big concern, but if you're PF and SG are elite shooters (LaVine/Lauri), and your C can shoot it (Bagley/Ayton are good shooters), and your SF is alright, it should work out.

Not necessarily advocating for him but just exploring the idea of someone we haven't really brought up.

NBA becoming a place where you can only have one bad shooter on the floor

Kurt Heimlich · Post #1406 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:50 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Investing big $$$ in Bigs is just not a smart strategy these days.

Big time pass on Nurkic.

Noel I could perhaps be talked into. I expect Noel's market will be a bit soft (Biyombo territory), and I could be talked into that.

Exactly. Plus we've already invested heavily in bigs with Lauri and Felicio and to lesser degrees Rolo and Niko. Not to mention Bobby.

Bigger (6'7'' -6'9'') wings and a play making point guard are what we need. Unfortunately those are the most valuable and toughest to obtain commodities in the game. Guys like Robert Covington and Rodney Hood could be interesting targets, but they are also primed to be overpaid.

Ultimately we'd be wise to use our cap space as leverage to acquire non-cap assets (i.e. draft picks) until we have a core that is one or two players away. Kind of like how the Sixers and Celtics have operated. Young players, value contracts and draft picks until then.

Dan Z · Post #1407 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:53 am

fleet wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
fleet wrote:
Nurkic hmmmm

Are you suggesting The Bulls go after him in 2018?

Nurkic, Porter, Lauri (IDK where Niko is) sounds like it has some good potential. Contract rules are over my level of understanding. If poison pills are still able to he used etc. Or awkward to match offers if you will, an interesting question. I don't like the idea of paying Lavine a mega contract right now. Maybe my mind will change this year we will see.

Nurkic is someone I wanted the FO to trade for last season, so I'm on board with signing him (But, of course, my mind could change depending on how he does this season).

I think Nurkic, Donic and Lauri would be a great start to the rebuild. I also agree with you about LaVine. He has potential but I'd like to see how he recovers from his injury and how he plays with the team before deciding on him.

nomorezorro · Post #1408 » by **nomorezorro** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:15 pm

Read on Twitter

guy we liked in the draft who went on to suck in the league...that's right in our wheelhouse baby

Post #1409 » by **Payt10** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:16 pm

Read on Twitter

I kinda liked him coming out of college. :-?

Post #1410 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:03 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Investing big $$$ in Bigs is just not a smart strategy these days.

Big time pass on Nurkic.

Noel I could perhaps be talked into. I expect Noel's market will be a bit soft (Biyombo territory), and I could be talked into that.

It depends on what "bigs" we're talking about, but yeah I generally agree with you there.

Post #1411 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:18 pm

Payt10 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I kinda liked him coming out of college.

He must REALLY be sucking hard with a bad attitude in my opinion. 1 season and only 21 is a quick hook.

I still think its way too early. Last year's draft class may have had the worst collective stats for draft choices in like the last 20 years.

The fact that Embiid would have won it in a landslide in just 31 games if it wasnt for politics tells the story. Brogdon will be the Mike Miller of ROYs.

I wouldnt drop him if I were the Grizz

MC3 · Post #1412 » by **MC3** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:42 pm

I liked Baldwin coming from college majority of year. I saw him exactly what he is. 3 and D combo guard who would need some time to become full time pg given his handle wasnt great at time and wasnt exactly most explosive player. And at time looked bit robotic. He was 6'3, good body with 6'10 wingspan. He could shoot, he had wingspan and arm size to basically palm basketball.

But slowly as draft was nearing I was on Dejounte's bandwagon. I heard about his possible demeanor problem during draft workouts. Still, giving up one year after draft? Didnt expect that.

realEAST · Post #1413 » by **realEAST** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:45 pm

Dan Z wrote:
fleet wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
Are you suggesting The Bulls go after him in 2018?

Nurkic, Porter, Lauri (IDK where Niko is) sounds like it has some good potential. Contract rules are over my level of understanding. If poison pills are still able to he used etc. Or awkward to match offers if you will, an interesting question. I don't like the idea of paying Lavine a mega contract right now. Maybe my mind will change this year we will see.

Nurkic is someone I wanted the FO to trade for last season, so I'm on board with signing him (But, of course, my mind could change depending on how he does this season).

I think Nurkic, Donic and Lauri would be a great start to the rebuild. I also agree with you about LaVine. He has potential but I'd like to see how he recovers from his injury and how he plays with the team before deciding on him.

No poison pills, I think they are limited to players who expire in 2nd year from being drafted - so, 2nd round picks on 2 year rookie deals, with no bird rights.

realEAST · Post #1414 » by **realEAST** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:46 pm

Btw, I'd gladly take chance on Baldwin

dumbell78 · Post #1415 » by **dumbell78** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:36 pm

Pop I love you but I'm confused. Extending Aldridge?

Post #1416 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:23 pm

He's not as high profile as Baldwin or Felder, but Zagorac was the other guy dropped from the Grizzlies, before even playing a game as a rookie. 2nd rounder, sure, but he was pretty nice coming in to the 2016 draft and came from the same club as Zubac, Luwawu, etc. overseas.

If you don't think Podexter will get/stay healthy Zagorac is an SF option that's only 22.

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Dan Z · Post #1417 » by **Dan Z** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:02 am

I'm not suggesting we get him, but Jameer Nelson was just cut by the Nuggets.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/jameer-nelson-waived-by-nuggets/

Post #1418 » by **Payt10** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:11 am

Dan Z wrote:I'm not suggesting we get him, but Jameer Nelson was just cut by the Nuggets.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/jameer-nelson-waived-by-nuggets/

Too late now with the Felder pick up, but my first thought when I saw he got cut was that he'd be a good vet to have on the bench with these young guys.

Post #1419 » by **Payt10** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:39 am

By the way, why the heck is Aldridge signing an extension with the Spurs? Didn't he want out last year?

dumbell78 · Post #1420 » by **dumbell78** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:45 am

Payt10 wrote:By the way, why the heck is Aldridge signing an extension with the Spurs? Didn't he want out last year?

Cause he wasn't sniffing 70+ million anytime soon from any other team. I don't get what SAS are thinking.