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NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:23 pm
by DASMACKDOWN
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:25 pm
by Truebiscuit
I think trading up for Bamba is kind of nuts... I remember when people were saying Thon Maker is the next big thing
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:27 pm
by Chi town
If Ainge wants Bamba he can always trade MEM their pick back.
If Bamba falls to 7 I’ll be taking Jaylen Brown and a premium future 1st
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:33 pm
by Repeat 3-peat
Truebiscuit wrote:I think trading up for Bamba is kind of nuts... I remember when people were saying Thon Maker is the next big thing
He could've been, if he was 20 years younger...
*Hopefully you and others understand the joke*
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:34 pm
by fleet
Truebiscuit wrote:I think trading up for Bamba is kind of nuts... I remember when people were saying Thon Maker is the next big thing
Depends on how scouts feel about his quality. A Lauri Bamba frontcourt has the potential to dominate the Eastern conference. The risk is apparent. But ask the Bears why they traded up for Trubisky. And traded future picks to get back into the second round for Miller. You can build a great team around the right pieces. I would not fault the Bulls for going all in. It may be that kind of chance. A great FO is great if they act on conviction and use good judgement with the target. Yes, the caveat is, trusting GarPax.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:41 pm
by DASMACKDOWN
I am certainly in the Bamba camp. Mainly because with this roster, I can certainly see down the line, us being a good/decent offensive team. Better players and execution will do that. But defensively we wont ever be good unless we have a true anchor in the front court.
While Lauri is decent defender down there, I don't want him to be the guy doing that. I want to "Dirkify" Lauri as much as possible.
Leave all the true dirty work to someone else, while he is free to be himself.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:49 pm
by Dan Z
Chi town wrote:If Ainge wants Bamba he can always trade MEM their pick back.
If Bamba falls to 7 I’ll be taking Jaylen Brown and a premium future 1st
Memphis will want more than just their pick back.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:49 pm
by kulaz3000
Chi town wrote:If Ainge wants Bamba he can always trade MEM their pick back.
If Bamba falls to 7 I’ll be taking Jaylen Brown and a premium future 1st
Are we falling for this?
You think if a GM wants a player, they are going to let that leak? Use the story about how the Jazz GM put on notice that if anyone on staff were to leaked about Mitchell's workout, they'd be fired. Ainge is on that level.
If anything, I'd say if a leaked story is out about Ainge wanting Bamba, Ainge doesn't think too highly of him at all and is eyeing some other prospect entirely. That's not to say the Bulls front office need to get caught up in mind games with Ainge, as he isn't always right, and never will be - point is, stories like these are often smokescreens.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:54 pm
by kulaz3000
I know these prospects aren't openly going to talk bad about a potential employee, but it's promising that these top tier prospects are openly enthusiastic wanting to be a Chicago Bull. It almost feels that us hardcore Bulls fans feel much more disdain about the franchise than others outside of the bubble that we live in.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:58 pm
by madvillian
kulaz3000 wrote:I know these prospects aren't openly going to talk bad about a potential employee, but it's promising that these top tier prospects are openly enthusiastic wanting to the a Chicago Bull. It almost feels that us hardcore Bulls fans feel much more disdain about the franchise than others outside of the bubble that we live in.
Hey, when surrounded by the other perennial lotto clubs the Bulls don't look like a half bad destination! Who wants to go to Sacremento and play for that loser org? Or Orlando or Atlanta?
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:58 pm
by fleet
DASMACKDOWN wrote:I am certainly in the Bamba camp. Mainly because with this roster, I can certainly see down the line, us being a good/decent offensive team. Better players and execution will do that. But defensively we wont ever be good unless we have a true anchor in the front court.
While Lauri is decent defender down there, I don't want him to be the guy doing that. I want to "Dirkify" Lauri as much as possible.
Leave all the true dirty work to someone else, while he is free to be himself.
Bamba would be an obvious plus on defense. If he could shoot and pass, this would be a no brainer and he might challenge for #1 overall. Projection is difficult. If teams are able to project shooting and passing into his game, no team is trading him. If those are open questions, do you want to trade just for his floor? The mere fact that he would be traded is a red flag. His floor is key. The way the Bulls have to evaluate it is, do reasonable alternatives to that floor exist at #7?
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:00 pm
by Dan Z
I'm not even sure what I think of him as a prospect, but Bamba is well spoken. Every interview I hear with him makes me like him more.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:01 pm
by madvillian
Dan Z wrote:I'm not even sure what I think of him as a prospect, but Bamba is well spoken. Every interview I hear with him makes me like him more.
Means almost nothing imo. Sure all things considered give me a well spoken athlete but otherwise give me one that plays at a high level on the court and produces wins. Sports is filled with well spoken guys that have bad on court and on field personalities and lack on field IQ.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:04 pm
by fleet
kulaz3000 wrote:I know these prospects aren't openly going to talk bad about a potential employee, but it's promising that these top tier prospects are openly enthusiastic wanting to the a Chicago Bull. It almost feels that us hardcore Bulls fans feel much more disdain about the franchise than others outside of the bubble that we live in.
a prospect happy talks to the team they are working out for. This is SOP.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:13 pm
by blicka
The Celtics trading up for bamba rumor was shot down by a boston herald celtics beat writer
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:14 pm
by Dan Z
madvillian wrote:Dan Z wrote:I'm not even sure what I think of him as a prospect, but Bamba is well spoken. Every interview I hear with him makes me like him more.
Means almost nothing imo. Sure all things considered give me a well spoken athlete but otherwise give me one that plays at a high level on the court and produces wins. Sports is filled with well spoken guys that have bad on court and on field personalities and lack on field IQ.
The benefit is that a well spoken player (smart) is more likely to listen to the coaches and in turn could potentially work well with the team. I agree with you that well spoken doesn't necessarily translate to being a good player, but it doesn't hurt. Look at someone like JR Smith. Talented player who makes dumb decisions quite often.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:15 pm
by logical_art
DASMACKDOWN wrote:I will put this here
Any reason to disregard the popular request to split the draft thread in two? One for #7 and one fo #22?
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:17 pm
by fleet
logical_art wrote:DASMACKDOWN wrote:I will put this here
Any reason to disregard the popular request to split the draft thread in two? One for #7 and one fo #22?
A separate thread for 22 would be fine imo sans objection. Although the Hutchison thread has been standing in so far a little.
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:21 pm
by logical_art
Truebiscuit wrote:I think trading up for Bamba is kind of nuts... I remember when people were saying Thon Maker is the next big thing
I think trading up for Dwayne Wade is kind of nuts. Remember when people were saying Deshawn Stevenson was the next big thing?
Re: NBA Draft 2018 Edition #4 : Lucky #7 and 22
Posted: Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:23 pm
by thewraith
madvillian wrote:Dan Z wrote:I'm not even sure what I think of him as a prospect, but Bamba is well spoken. Every interview I hear with him makes me like him more.
Means almost nothing imo. Sure all things considered give me a well spoken athlete but otherwise give me one that plays at a high level on the court and produces wins. Sports is filled with well spoken guys that have bad on court and on field personalities and lack on field IQ.
Yeah this is kinda weird when people start acting like this is a potential suitor for their daughter or sister or something. Can the player play and not get into trouble? Ok sign me up all this other stuff is irrelevant.