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johnnyvann840 wrote:I'm so NOT high on Knox. Watched him maybe half a dozen times at Kentucky and then watched a lot his game footage in an editing bay one day. Crossed him off my list for 7. He would be a good pick, however, at 22. But I still like a lot of players better at 22.

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johnnyvann840 wrote:I'm so NOT high on Knox. Watched him maybe half a dozen times at Kentucky and then watched a lot his game footage in an editing bay one day. Crossed him off my list for 7. He would be a good pick, however, at 22. But I still like a lot of players better at 22.

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Some members of the Knicks organization came away 'very impressed' by Kentucky's Kevin Knox after his performance in workout with the team last Saturday, per league sources. Knox worked out with a group that included Michigan State's Miles Bridges. Knox and Bridges competed against one another in the workout, per sources. After the workout, members of the organization club inquired about Knox's remaining workouts, asking if he had any workouts with teams drafting ahead of New York. That's standard for the draft process, but perhaps indicates the club's level of interest in drafting Knox. Knox is currently projected to be drafted at No. 9 by the Knicks in ESPN's latest mock draft.
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Ugly Duckling wrote:Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

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I’m not surprised

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kulaz3000 wrote:

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I’m not surprised

I think you missed the sarcasm in the post.

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fleet wrote:

Ugly Duckling wrote:Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

tedwilliams1999 wrote:

fleet wrote:

Ugly Duckling wrote:Whoever said Porter's medicals look good doesn't know much about microdiscetomy. That's the whole point and why it was a good decision for him. He was apparently playing through the pain for a couple yrs before opting for surgery. The surgery provides relief, but destabilizes the spine and increases the risk for further injury. Hope he has no issues

Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

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fleet wrote:Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

so what you're saying is, draft someone else

tedwilliams1999 wrote:I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

RememberLu wrote:

tedwilliams1999 wrote:

fleet wrote:Thr GMs that saw the medicals and said it looksed good were very concerned about the issue, and the details. That's reasonable risk imo given the talent level.

I'm not an Orthopedic surgeon, but I am a doctor in internal medicine, so I can maybe provide a little more insight regarding these medicals.

The only way something would have turned up as a red flag in MPJ's medical history would have been if he didn't have the microdiscectomy procedure. If he didn't go through with surgery, then there's a chance that a herniated disc would've been discovered during a physical exam and a subsequent MRI.

The surgery basically guaranteed a clean medical bill on paper. The main issue with back surgery, though, is pain. Everyone has different pain thresholds, and there's no good objective way to measure this. Lliterally all we can try to do to quantify pain is use the pain scale, where patients rate their pain from 1 to 10. Porter's MRIs at this point are going to be clean, until he starts to suffer another injury. He can simply lie about his pain levels as well, and that will also result in him passing every physical and medical exam.

One way to really know if he is pain free is to watch him during an intense work out, and to closely follow how his body responds in the following days. He also has to then tell the truth about what he's feeling, which most athletes don't do.

so what you're saying is, draft someone else