Zach Lavine thread 3.0

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

I'm not worried. He was never meant to be our best, let alone only, perimeter playmaker. Pair him with real talent at the 3 and the efficiency will come back. Not to the level it was in the first two weeks of the season, but high enough to be a very solid second or third option.

[GusFring]

I'm not worried. He was never meant to be our best, let alone only, perimeter playmaker. Pair him with real talent at the 3 and the efficiency will come back. Not to the level it was in the first two weeks of the season, but high enough to be a very solid second or third option.

But when will the bulls have a good 3.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

I'm not worried. He was never meant to be our best, let alone only, perimeter playmaker. Pair him with real talent at the 3 and the efficiency will come back. Not to the level it was in the first two weeks of the season, but high enough to be a very solid second or third option.

But when will the bulls have a good 3.

[GimmeDat]

Bulls looked a lot better without Lavine tonight. Really freed up Blakeney and Parker to become the main options on offense.

Not taking a dig, just saying those stats we were discussing not long ago need to be taken with a grain of salt.

[logical_art]

Bulls looked a lot better without Lavine tonight. Really freed up Blakeney and Parker to become the main options on offense.

Not taking a dig, just saying those stats we were discussing not long ago need to be taken with a grain of salt.

First, I don't think anyone ever claimed the Bulls were better off without Zach. Second I'm not sure why disregarding the bulk of Zach's season (and career) based on one game makes much sense.

[logical_art]

I'm not worried. He was never meant to be our best, let alone only, perimeter playmaker. Pair him with real talent at the 3 and the efficiency will come back. Not to the level it was in the first two weeks of the season, but high enough to be a very solid second or third option.

The problem is he doesn't do anything well except score and so if he's only a solid second or third level scorer, I'm not sure he's a worth that contract.

[kulaz3000]

I'm not worried. He was never meant to be our best, let alone only, perimeter playmaker. Pair him with real talent at the 3 and the efficiency will come back. Not to the level it was in the first two weeks of the season, but high enough to be a very solid second or third option.

The problem is he doesn't do anything well except score and so if he's only a solid second or third level scorer, I'm not sure he's a worth that contract.

For a player whose primary responsibility is to score, he rebounds and assists at a pretty strong clip for a shooting guard. Sure, he isn't a lock down defender, but he has improved slightly in that regard. Point being, he doesn't ONLY score, he does contribute in other areas.

[panthermark]

Zach's is becoming a solid player (++scorer, - defender)...he used to be a" scorer, ---defender".

He isn't good enough to make this (injured) scrub team better by himself...but he will look/play a lot better with Dunn and Lauri in the line-up, and if we had a starter level SF. I'm on the Porter bandwagon...he is overpaid, but he is a 25year old +3&D wing.

Dunn
Zach
Porter (Career 40.2% from 3)
Lauri (Career 36.2% from 3)
WCJr

Dunn needs to step his shooting game up...but his added (so-so) ball-handling and defense will help keep Zach from being doubled every play....especially with Lauri on the court as well. There would actually be room for Zach to operate.

[JimmyJammer]

Zach's shooting and confidence have been shaky over the past couple of games, but I like the fact that he has improved in many other facets of the game. His rebounding, assists and steals numbers are at career high, and so is his free-throw attempt, despite the fact that he has mostly rookies and G-Leaguers as teammates.

I would like to see him not let the officials get to his head due to non-calls when he goes to the rim. He is doing a lot of the ballhandling duties, due to Dunn being out, which can be tiring, but he will benefit from this experience in the end.

Not everyone is meant to be the number one option on a contender, and I am sensing it's not what LaVine is. He looks like a damn good second option or even a high-level third option which I am fine with, considering we got him in a package for a guy who himself is not a first-option on a contending team. It's reassuring to see Zach turning into a complete player.

[Chi town]

Lauri won’t be a 1st option unless he gets a handle and can shoot and score off the dribble. He flashed that a little last year.

I think Zach can be a 1st option with better players around him. He can certainly get his own shot at any time. I see him as an Oladipo first option once Bulls are healthy and teams can’t cheat and double and triple him

[JimmyJammer]

Lauri won’t be a 1st option unless he gets a handle and can shoot and score off the dribble. He flashed that a little last year.

I think Zach can be a 1st option with better players around him. He can certainly get his own shot at any time. I see him as an Oladipo first option once Bulls are healthy and teams can’t cheat and double and triple him

I think Oladipo is first option by default, but not because he is an excellent player. This is why I will never take Indiana seriously. No disrespect to Oladipo, but the only way I can see Indiana taking that next step is by adding another talent of the same level as Oladipo or putting a better superstar next to him.

[Jcool0]

Lauri won’t be a 1st option unless he gets a handle and can shoot and score off the dribble. He flashed that a little last year.

I think Zach can be a 1st option with better players around him. He can certainly get his own shot at any time. I see him as an Oladipo first option once Bulls are healthy and teams can’t cheat and double and triple him

I think Oladipo is first option by default, but not because he is an excellent player.This is why I will never take Indiana seriously. No disrespect to Oladipo, but the only way I can see Indiana taking that next step is by adding another talent of the same level as Oladipo or putting a better superstar next to him.

Wait you think a guy who averaged 23 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 2.4 steals last year isn't an excellent player?

[Chi town]

Lauri won’t be a 1st option unless he gets a handle and can shoot and score off the dribble. He flashed that a little last year.

I think Zach can be a 1st option with better players around him. He can certainly get his own shot at any time. I see him as an Oladipo first option once Bulls are healthy and teams can’t cheat and double and triple him

I think Oladipo is first option by default, but not because he is an excellent player.This is why I will never take Indiana seriously. No disrespect to Oladipo, but the only way I can see Indiana taking that next step is by adding another talent of the same level as Oladipo or putting a better superstar next to him.

Wait you think a guy who averaged 23 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 2.4 steals last year isn't an excellent player?

I’d take Oladipo as a 1st option over most East teams 1st options. That includes Kyrie too. Dipo wins w D too.

I think Dipo is absolutely a 1st option. He just doesn’t have much help.

[johnnyvann840]

Lauri won’t be a 1st option unless he gets a handle and can shoot and score off the dribble. He flashed that a little last year.

I think Zach can be a 1st option with better players around him. He can certainly get his own shot at any time. I see him as an Oladipo first option once Bulls are healthy and teams can’t cheat and double and triple him

I think Oladipo is first option by default, but not because he is an excellent player.This is why I will never take Indiana seriously. No disrespect to Oladipo, but the only way I can see Indiana taking that next step is by adding another talent of the same level as Oladipo or putting a better superstar next to him.

Wait you think a guy who averaged 23 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 2.4 steals last year isn't an excellent player?

Not only those numbers but his defense is top of the league for his position and not worst in the league, like Lavine. His basketball IQ is about a 140 compared to Lavines 95 as well. Oladipo is a player you are going to win with because he is great on both ends of the floor.

[Chi town]

Who are the best 1st options in the East???

[theGreatRC]

I said last season on this board that when healthy, Zach is on the same level as Booker.

What do you guys think about that statement?

[WindyCityBorn]

I said last season on this board that when healthy, Zach is on the same level as Booker.

What do you guys think about that statement?

It's true. Booker is better shooter and Zach is better finisher in the paint.

[WindyCityBorn]

I think Oladipo is first option by default, but not because he is an excellent player.This is why I will never take Indiana seriously. No disrespect to Oladipo, but the only way I can see Indiana taking that next step is by adding another talent of the same level as Oladipo or putting a better superstar next to him.

Wait you think a guy who averaged 23 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 2.4 steals last year isn't an excellent player?

Not only those numbers but his defense is top of the league for his position and not worst in the league, like Lavine. His basketball IQ is about a 140 compared to Lavines 95 as well. Oladipo is a player you are going to win with because he is great on both ends of the floor.

Yet he was considered a huge before last season. Zach is going to put up similar numbers this season yet you still don't trust him. Might as well stick to your guns that he sucks instead flip flopping. It's more entertaining that way...

[kozelkid]

I said last season on this board that when healthy, Zach is on the same level as Booker.

What do you guys think about that statement?

I think having either as your best player or main ballhandler doesn't bode well if you have championship aspirations. There needs to be a more reliable ball-handler next to them as I think a team's offense will run better.

[dice]

Wait you think a guy who averaged 23 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 2.4 steals last year isn't an excellent player?

Not only those numbers but his defense is top of the league for his position and not worst in the league, like Lavine. His basketball IQ is about a 140 compared to Lavines 95 as well. Oladipo is a player you are going to win with because he is great on both ends of the floor.

Yet he was considered a huge before last season. Zach is going to put up similar numbers this season yet you still don't trust him. Might as well stick to your guns that he sucks instead flip flopping. It's more entertaining that way...

he JUST said that oladipo plays both ends of the floor and zach doesn't. what exactly are you reading?

you did the same thing responding to something i posted in the way-too-early all-star thread. completely whiffed on what i was saying in a hyperventilating rush to defend the honor of zach lavine