Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

StunnerKO · Post #1241 » by **StunnerKO** » Sat May 18, 2019 4:41 pm

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Kurt Heimlich · Post #1242 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Sat May 18, 2019 8:18 pm

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Big time bust. Wouldnt want him taking up $5M in cap space let alone give any draft picks for him.

StunnerKO · Post #1243 » by **StunnerKO** » Sat May 18, 2019 9:45 pm

Sucks he’s so trash offensively but he’s a good defender, he’s not even 21 yet . 38th pick that bad if you can ditch Dunn contract elsewhere? At least he still can grow , Dunn basically what he is .

Post #1244 » by **dougthonus** » Sat May 18, 2019 10:12 pm

KnicksManiac wrote:I was having a discussion/argument with a fellow Knicks fan and I need you guys to back me up here.

If the Knicks are able to sign KD/Kyrie but AD gets traded elsewhere, I was thinking about other potential trade targets for us that would help us compete in 2019-2020 (I realize I’m getting ahead of myself here). The Bulls came up and I was trying to figure out a way for us to acquire LaVine + Lauri. Here is a proposal I came up with:

Knicks Trade:
#3 Pick - RJ Barrett
Kevin Knox
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
2021 Mavericks First Round Pick
2023 Mavericks First Round Pick

Bulls Trade:
Zach LaVine
Lauri Markkanen

I said there was no way you guys would make that deal. He said there was no way we (the Knicks) would make that deal and that the Bulls would “insta-accept.”

Prove me right.

I can't imagine the Bulls doing this trade, not because the value is poor, but because I think they're under pressure to win now, and this trade is more future oriented for them. It probably sets back their rebuild a couple years, and I don't think that's the direction they want to go.

Jcool0 · Post #1245 » by **Jcool0** » Sun May 19, 2019 12:50 am

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panthermark · Post #1246 » by **panthermark** » Sun May 19, 2019 3:10 am

LOL...yeah....everyone and their mom knows Dunn has ZERO trade value except as small salary filler.

sco · Post #1247 » by **sco** » Sun May 19, 2019 12:07 pm

panthermark wrote:LOL...yeah....everyone and their mom knows Dunn has ZERO trade value except as small salary filler.

Yeah, I will Pax credit for already knowing this when he made those comments about needing a new PG. Unlike other players, this board is pretty unanimous that he's not our starting PG and our best use is to dump him or hope he magically improves.

Post #1248 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Mon May 20, 2019 4:50 am

panthermark wrote:LOL...yeah....everyone and their mom knows Dunn has ZERO trade value except as small salary filler.

You would think so, but at least once a week I see someone propose we trade Dunn for a late 1st or early second.

Though in fairness, that someone is usually League Circles.

xpmar9x · Post #1249 » by **xpmar9x** » Mon May 20, 2019 5:31 am

5 & 26 for 7, '20 1st (top 12/8/4 protection), & Antonio Blakeney (need that roster spot ✌)

I'm fallin for Garland.

mack2354 · Post #1250 » by **mack2354** » Mon May 20, 2019 6:30 am

Jcool0 wrote:

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I find it funny that this Matt Peck person thinks the majority of the Bulls fans want Ball bad enough to give up our #7 pick. I'd consider trading the pick for a point guard who can't shoot in Ben Simmons because of his next level athletism. There is no way i'd trade the pick for Ball. Dunn included or not.

Pax for Prez · Post #1251 » by **Pax for Prez** » Tue May 21, 2019 2:58 am

What about trading down as an option ??

Looking at mocks would you trade # 7 (Culver or Hunter, assuming Garland and White are gone) to Boston for # 14 & #20 that could translate to players like SF N. Little and PG Ty Jerome.

Boston has 4 picks in this draft if they can't move them in a trade for AD.

Thoughts ??

Pax

Post #1252 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue May 21, 2019 7:55 am

I'm cool with taking on Ntilikina if the price is cheap. Taking on salary is something I'm not too keen on though.

But I think he was stifled a bit in NY. He's a great defender and needs a bit more freedom to develop offensively.

Not sure if there's a right deal there for us, though. Don't think I'd trade even #38 for him.

bearadonisdna · Post #1253 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue May 21, 2019 8:51 am

GimmeDat wrote:I'm cool with taking on Ntilikina if the price is cheap. Taking on salary is something I'm not too keen on though.

But I think he was stifled a bit in NY. He's a great defender and needs a bit more freedom to develop offensively.

Not sure if there's a right deal there for us, though. Don't think I'd trade even #38 for him.

Frank is interesting because he Can play 3 positions imo.

He has offensive limitations but ny didn't try
To feature him or anybody for that matter.
He would be interesting as a rotational player, but the bulls should be looking for starting players.

Bulls Fan 23 · Post #1254 » by **Bulls Fan 23** » Tue May 21, 2019 11:39 am

mack2354 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

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I find it funny that this Matt Peck person thinks the majority of the Bulls fans want Ball bad enough to give up our #7 pick. I'd consider trading the pick for a point guard who can't shoot in Ben Simmons because of his next level athletism. There is no way i'd trade the pick for Ball. Dunn included or not.

Lonzo is trash, can't shoot. Dunn shoots better and makes less $. And no distractions from his father. Bulls don't want that crap.

I will trade Felicio straight up for him. That's it.

There's a reason the Lakers want to trade him.

gobullschi · Post #1255 » by **gobullschi** » Tue May 21, 2019 11:43 pm

What about Andre Drummond? Few players are capable of putting up 20/20 games. He is only 25 years old and would be an interesting pairing next to Markkanen.

I know people are high on WCJ, but I think Drummond has the higher ceiling. He is a rebounding machine and has the size to match up against Embiid.

WCJ + Dunn + Felicio

Coby White/ [ Patrick Beverly? ]
Zach LaVine/Denzel Valentine
Otto Porter/Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen/Otto Porter
Andre Drummond/Lauri Markkanen

sco · Post #1256 » by **sco** » Wed May 22, 2019 12:37 pm

gobullschi wrote:What about Andre Drummond? Few players are capable of putting up 20/20 games. He is only 25 years old and would be an interesting pairing next to Markkanen.

I know people are high on WCJ, but I think Drummond has the higher ceiling. He is a rebounding machine and has the size to match up against Embiid.

WCJ + Dunn + Felicio

Coby White/ [ Patrick Beverly? ]
Zach LaVine/Denzel Valentine
Otto Porter/Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen/Otto Porter
Andre Drummond/Lauri Markkanen

His ft shooting, while better, is still only 59%, which hurts.

sco · Post #1257 » by **sco** » Wed May 22, 2019 12:40 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I'm cool with taking on Ntilikina if the price is cheap. Taking on salary is something I'm not too keen on though.

But I think he was stifled a bit in NY. He's a great defender and needs a bit more freedom to develop offensively.

Not sure if there's a right deal there for us, though. Don't think I'd trade even #38 for him.

Frank is interesting because he Can play 3 positions imo.

He has offensive limitations but ny didn't try
To feature him or anybody for that matter.
He would be interesting as a rotational player, but the bulls should be looking for starting players.

If you want Frank, just keep Shaq. He's a better defender (and shooter - Frank shoots 33% vs. Shaq 47%...neither can shoot 3's).

drosereturn · Post #1258 » by **drosereturn** » Wed May 22, 2019 12:45 pm

gobullschi wrote:What about Andre Drummond? Few players are capable of putting up 20/20 games. He is only 25 years old and would be an interesting pairing next to Markkanen.

I know people are high on WCJ, but I think Drummond has the higher ceiling. He is a rebounding machine and has the size to match up against Embiid.

WCJ + Dunn + Felicio

Coby White/ [ Patrick Beverly? ]
Zach LaVine/Denzel Valentine
Otto Porter/Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen/Otto Porter
Andre Drummond/Lauri Markkanen

Good creative idea but this only makes sense if no star FAs sign with us. I would wait for Butler and 2nd star first.
But fit wise, way better than WCJ who is an undersized center that gets constantly bullied by Drummond, Embiid.

RakimAbdulJabar · Post #1259 » by **RakimAbdulJabar** » Thu May 23, 2019 1:31 pm

I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

xpmar9x · Post #1260 » by **xpmar9x** » Thu May 23, 2019 3:18 pm

RakimAbdulJabar wrote:I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.