Former nba player jarret jack took wendell carter to a strip club on georgia tech visit in 2017 for 300$ per espn

[dice]

Good to know that 18 year olds like lap dances and boobs smushed in their faces. And lap dances.

As long as there is no NBA repercussion to Wendell's career as a Chicago Bull, this is non-news to me.

But, I am glad the OP broought it to our attention. Good thread, OP!

yea its good to teach teen boys that women are sexual objects and encourage them to use their wealth to exploit em

By all means we should take away these womens right to earn money in the way that they see fit

does that extends to prostitution and drug dealing?

[dice]

this is your brain on capitalism:

women’s bodies are commodities disconnected from personhood.

strip or be impoverished

y’all act like that’s a fair and reasonable dichotomy.


it’s exploitation, dudes. at its most base form.


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I would add good looking women should be banned from sales in general, in person at least. How can we let them exploit their good looks?

you think all strippers are good looking?

he's talking about the act, not the appearance. good looking people are more successful on average in all walks of life

[League Circles]

this is your brain on capitalism:

women’s bodies are commodities disconnected from personhood.

strip or be impoverished

y’all act like that’s a fair and reasonable dichotomy.


it’s exploitation, dudes. at its most base form.


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I would add good looking women should be banned from sales in general, in person at least. How can we let them exploit their good looks?

you think all strippers are good looking?

he's talking about the act, not the appearance. good looking people are more successful on average in all walks of life

Yeah, so one's appearance should be of economic utility in all industries other than one particular one because "sex is bad"?

[dice]

it should be legal, but stripping is mutual exploitation. men objectifying women for sexual gratification (it ain't appreciation of the art of stripping, folks, nor do genitals have to make an appearance for it to be sexual), women learning to manipulating men

[meekrab]

lol
u think women would actually do sex work if there were better economic opportunities available? this pretty much contradicts all research on the matter.

What "better economic opportunities" do you imagine aren't available in Atlanta? It's a major city, not Topeka.

[dice]

I would add good looking women should be banned from sales in general, in person at least. How can we let them exploit their good looks?

you think all strippers are good looking?

he's talking about the act, not the appearance. good looking people are more successful on average in all walks of life

Yeah, so one's appearance should be of economic utility in all industries other than one particular one because "sex is bad"?

nothing that has been said has had anything to do with looks until nikola brought it into the conversation

[League Circles]

it should be legal, but stripping is mutual exploitation. men objectifying women for sexual gratification (it ain't appreciation of the art of stripping, folks, nor do genitals have to make an appearance for it to be sexual), women learning to manipulating men

Every transaction in a free society is mutually exploitive. That's how division of labor works. Thank god

[League Circles]

you think all strippers are good looking?

he's talking about the act, not the appearance. good looking people are more successful on average in all walks of life

Yeah, so one's appearance should be of economic utility in all industries other than one particular one because "sex is bad"?

nothing that has been said has had anything to do with looks until nikola brought it into the conversation

You know that's not what he meant. He meant attractiveness for pay. You correctly but irrelevantly pointed out that many strippers are ugly.

[dice]

lol
u think women would actually do sex work if there were better economic opportunities available? this pretty much contradicts all research on the matter.

What "better economic opportunities" do you imagine aren't available in Atlanta? It's a major city, not Topeka.

his point is that women are willing to degrade themselves because the money is so good

[League Circles]

lol
u think women would actually do sex work if there were better economic opportunities available? this pretty much contradicts all research on the matter.

What "better economic opportunities" do you imagine aren't available in Atlanta? It's a major city, not Topeka.

his point is that women are willing to degrade themselves because the money is so good

Only the small # of people that like what they do fail to grasp that everyone degrades themselves for their job because "the pay is so good".

[dice]

Yeah, so one's appearance should be of economic utility in all industries other than one particular one because "sex is bad"?

nothing that has been said has had anything to do with looks until nikola brought it into the conversation

You know that's not what he meant. He meant attractiveness for pay. You correctly but irrelevantly pointed out that many strippers are ugly.

he SAID that stripping is about women exploiting their good looks. and that's it's just like any other profession in that way. both are distortions

the reality is that stripping causes psychological damage by attaching a woman's self worth even more acutely to her appearance than it already was

[TheFinishSniper]

Good for Wendell.

[League Circles]

nothing that has been said has had anything to do with looks until nikola brought it into the conversation

You know that's not what he meant. He meant attractiveness for pay. You correctly but irrelevantly pointed out that many strippers are ugly.

he SAID that stripping is about women exploiting their good looks. and that's it's just like any other profession in that way. both are distortions

the reality is that stripping causes psychological damage by attaching a woman's self worth even more acutely to her appearance than it already was

"good looks" = "attractive ability" in his phrasing. It's 100% irrelevant how they stack up to society at large and I think you know that.

Jobs are all psychologically damaging to us by attaching our self worth even more accutely to our intelligence, genetic predisposition to work hard, etc than they already were.

It's not that complicated. I don't doubt that stripping is not psychologically beneficial for many of the people to do it. But most people do a number of things that are psychologically detrimental to themselves. I don't really understand the distinction that stripping should have from so many other activities.

[dice]

What "better economic opportunities" do you imagine aren't available in Atlanta? It's a major city, not Topeka.

his point is that women are willing to degrade themselves because the money is so good

Only the small # of people that like what they do fail to grasp that everyone degrades themselves for their job because "the pay is so good".

1) many people like what they do. or they say they do, anyway. maybe they're deluding themselves
2) i was clearly talking about sexual degradation. i don't think many people would consider what they do professionally degrading. unless it involved verbal abuse or gross underemployment

[dice]

You know that's not what he meant. He meant attractiveness for pay. You correctly but irrelevantly pointed out that many strippers are ugly.

he SAID that stripping is about women exploiting their good looks. and that's it's just like any other profession in that way. both are distortions

the reality is that stripping causes psychological damage by attaching a woman's self worth even more acutely to her appearance than it already was

"good looks" = "attractive ability" in his phrasing. It's 100% irrelevant how they stack up to society at large and I think you know that.

Jobs are all psychologically damaging to us by attaching our self worth even more accutely to our intelligence, genetic predisposition to work hard, etc than they already were.

It's not that complicated. I don't doubt that stripping is not psychologically beneficial for many of the people to do it. But most people do a number of things that are psychologically detrimental to themselves. I don't really understand the distinction that stripping should have from so many other activities.

probably because you've never been a woman or stripper

[wolffy]

And being a "fill in the blank" for a career is bad for your health. So what? That's why you get paid. If they don't like it they can quit i assume.

[dice]

it should be legal, but stripping is mutual exploitation. men objectifying women for sexual gratification (it ain't appreciation of the art of stripping, folks, nor do genitals have to make an appearance for it to be sexual), women learning to manipulating men

Every transaction in a free society is mutually exploitive. That's how division of labor works. Thank god

again, you're using a much broader definition of the word 'exploitative' than most people do. clearly not how i was using it

[MeloRoseNoah]

lol
u think women would actually do sex work if there were better economic opportunities available? this pretty much contradicts all research on the matter.

has nothing to do with morality. has more to do with perpetuating abuse. maybe in a sense it has something to do with morality in that i think it's wrong for people to be exploited and marginalized? hot take right?

A few things:

1) There aren't that many jobs out there that pay $300+/hr. Those jobs require years of education and hard work up the social ladder
2) Stripping isn't the same as sex work

[League Circles]

he SAID that stripping is about women exploiting their good looks. and that's it's just like any other profession in that way. both are distortions

the reality is that stripping causes psychological damage by attaching a woman's self worth even more acutely to her appearance than it already was

"good looks" = "attractive ability" in his phrasing. It's 100% irrelevant how they stack up to society at large and I think you know that.

Jobs are all psychologically damaging to us by attaching our self worth even more accutely to our intelligence, genetic predisposition to work hard, etc than they already were.

It's not that complicated. I don't doubt that stripping is not psychologically beneficial for many of the people to do it. But most people do a number of things that are psychologically detrimental to themselves. I don't really understand the distinction that stripping should have from so many other activities.

probably because you've never been a woman or stripper

Likewise, you've perhaps never hated what you do, or enjoyed something most people can't imagine enjoying, or done something psychologically or otherwise detrimental for a net benefit.

[League Circles]

it should be legal, but stripping is mutual exploitation. men objectifying women for sexual gratification (it ain't appreciation of the art of stripping, folks, nor do genitals have to make an appearance for it to be sexual), women learning to manipulating men

Every transaction in a free society is mutually exploitive. That's how division of labor works. Thank god

again, you're using a much broader definition of the word 'exploitative' than most people do. clearly not how i was using it

Please feel free to clarify the precise line that divides exploitation from non exploitive transactions.