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Continue all the KD discussion here. Thanks!

Feel like down the road, we'll get some more scoop re: KD and someone might be in trouble.

Benedict Miller wrote:

Red8911 wrote:

Benedict Miller wrote:Raptors trash fans doesn't deserve a championship after cheering Durant's injury.

No one wants to see these injuries but I’m sure every fan is happy when an opposing teams best player gets hurt in an important game or series. An injury like that increases your teams chances of beating the opponents, it’s natural to feel joy. At the same time though yeah it was messed up to cheer in his face lol. I’m sure they didn’t know at the moment that it was that serious and they did give him a standing ovation after.

If you're a fan of basketball, you don't want great players getting hurt. I'm not one of those fans that gets happy when an opposing player gets hurt, sorry. Never been that way.

I get what your saying it sounds messed up but it’s not personal, fans don’t know KD personally. Everyone feels bad for him but I think at the end of the day only KD himself, his family/friends, teammates and GSW fans will feel this injury most. We already know how it feels with what we went through with D Rose.

Also don’t you think Philly and fans were happy once Rose went down in the playoffs with the ACL ? Of course they were since they even won a series they had no business winning. Same with Lebron, he had such an easy time in the eastern conference all these years because Rose got out of the way. Lebron might have said the right things about that but we all know he was glad that his job was easier.

And just like that a basketball superstar career is literally over.

The stadium gave KD a standing ovation.
If some did cheer, most of the stadium did the right thing and gave him a respectful ovation.

Honestly , KD was thrown to the wolves, basically to be matched up against a tough front court facing a 3-1 deficit.

Honestly gonna put this on the league for needlessly extending the series, ex. Game 2

HomoSapien wrote:Continue all the KD discussion here. Thanks!

By your command!

It's morning here, and I just woke up to the news of Durant's achilles injury. A downer for a day for sure.

I hope he comes back strong, whenever that may be. Whatever you think about Durant the person, Durant the player is one of the best to ever play the game of basketball.

Also: Raps in 6.

Axolotl wrote:

HomoSapien wrote:Continue all the KD discussion here. Thanks!

By your command!

It's morning here, and I just woke up to the news of Durant's achilles injury. A downer for a day for sure.

I hope he comes back strong, whenever that may be. Whatever you think about Durant the person, Durant the player is one of the best to ever play the game of basketball.

Also: Raps in 6.

I mean even Durant the person seems like a good guy.

Internet fights aside(which is insignificant to a person being good or not).

Warriors GM didn't look genuine to me in that press conference.

MeloRoseNoah wrote:And just like that a basketball superstar career is literally over.

I actually think he will still be okay. His length is still always going to be there, he's skinny, and he won't forget how to shoot. I think it would be worse if it were a smaller guard who is reliant on athleticism and quickness, but Durant is such a freak of nature that I'd be willing to bet he comes back and still averages 27 a game for the next several years.

Derrick rose is probably the only mvp type of guy who ruined his career because of a singular injury.
Basically by a botched rehab.
Boogie,, is in rehab but has obviously shown flashes. His rehab looks good imo just he can't be relied on during a title run.
Hopefully the same for KD.

bearadonisdna wrote:Derrick rose is probably the only mvp type of guy who ruined his career because of a singular injury.
Basically by a botched rehab.
Boogie,, is in rehab but has obviously shown flashes. His rehab looks good imo just he can't be relied on during a title run.
Hopefully the same for KD.

Boogie is severely worse since the injury.

Kobe's career was ruined from his achilles tear.

I don't see Golden State losing a third straight at home.

Which means Game 7, and Golden State will have all the momentum on their side at that point. The pressure will be on the Raps not to choke it away, and I'm not sure if they (coach included) can handle that pressure based on the way the last few minutes of Game 5 went.

Doubt has been introduced for Toronto, and it's hard to shake once it has reared its ugly head.

Durant was in an impossible 'damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't' position tonight. Selfish deserter if he doesn't play, and if he does play... it's well known that playing with any injury puts undue pressure on other parts of the body to compensate, and leads to further injuries.

Career altering injury to Durant, I think his story will set the precedent going forward for athletes in the same position. They will NOT be rushing back from injury just to placate fans.

Also, if there's any perception from Durant that GS forced his hand to play, makes him more likely to leave actually. But he's calling his teammates brothers on social media already, looks like he's staying.

Insult to injury, Toronto cheering Durant's misfortune. That was bush league, honestly not sure I can root for them in good conscience after that. Instant karma that they went on to lose the game.

I guess if your going to risk injury you do it in the finals. Id be interested to know if the doctors gave KD the ok or if they told him he was risking serious injury trying to come back. reports were that he looked terrible before game 4 which is why i was surprised he played tonight.

Either way i hope the raps finish this series off asap.

bearadonisdna wrote:Derrick rose is probably the only mvp type of guy who ruined his career because of a singular injury.
Basically by a botched rehab.
Boogie,, is in rehab but has obviously shown flashes. His rehab looks good imo just he can't be relied on during a title run.
Hopefully the same for KD.

That's not fair.

Derrick showed flashes, but showing flashes as a star is a problem. Boogie is nowhere near what he was before the injury.

Grant Hill was never the same after his ankle surgeries.

Penny Hardaways career was never the same after his knee surgeries.

Those two were MVP calibre type of players whose careers were definitely derailed due to significant injuries. Achillies injuries are no joke, but fortunately he is such a prolific scorer with a tall frame that he could still be a very effective player, however, I'd be surprised if he is ever an MVP level player ever again, because it's difficult to regain the same explosiveness as a player. Boogie is a different case, because he is a big man.

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:Derrick rose is probably the only mvp type of guy who ruined his career because of a singular injury.
Basically by a botched rehab.
Boogie,, is in rehab but has obviously shown flashes. His rehab looks good imo just he can't be relied on during a title run.
Hopefully the same for KD.

Boogie is severely worse since the injury.

Kobe's career was ruined from his achilles tear.

Boogie is still better than Looney but the quad set him back.
If the rappers aren't careful he could sway the FC advantage. The raptors are doing a good job of making him look bad.
Tonight he scored 7 points in about under 1 minute iirc.

Kobe got injured but was an uber productive player even In his limelight. His efficiency dropped but he was already 35+ and on bad teams.

bearadonisdna wrote:

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:Derrick rose is probably the only mvp type of guy who ruined his career because of a singular injury.
Basically by a botched rehab.
Boogie,, is in rehab but has obviously shown flashes. His rehab looks good imo just he can't be relied on during a title run.
Hopefully the same for KD.

Boogie is severely worse since the injury.

Kobe's career was ruined from his achilles tear.

Boogie is still better than Looney but the quad set him back.
If the rappers aren't careful he could sway the FC advantage. The raptors are doing a good job of making him look bad.
Tonight he scored 7 points in about under 1 minute iirc.

Kobe got injured but was an uber productive player even In his limelight. His efficiency dropped but he was already 35+ and on bad teams.

"still better than Looney" ? what the hell does that have to do with anything here? We are talking about star players and whether or not they come back the same after an injury such as an Achilles.

johnnyvann840 wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
Boogie is severely worse since the injury.

Kobe's career was ruined from his achilles tear.

Boogie is still better than Looney but the quad set him back.
If the rappers aren't careful he could sway the FC advantage. The raptors are doing a good job of making him look bad.
Tonight he scored 7 points in about under 1 minute iirc.

Kobe got injured but was an uber productive player even In his limelight. His efficiency dropped but he was already 35+ and on bad teams.

"still better than Looney" ? what the hell does that have to do with anything here? We are talking about star players and whether or not they come back the same after an injury such as an Achilles.

Well I'm mentioning Looney because he is getting meaningful minutes and it's comparative to where boogie is as a player.

just to back peddle on this a little:

KD went from not being able to practice before game 4 to playing in game 5. I don't know how you can medically clear that, have to think it was KD pushing to get out there.

dumbell78 wrote:just to back peddle on this a little:

KD went from not being able to practice before game 4 to playing in game 5. I don't know how you can medically clear that, have to think it was KD pushing to get out there.

I'm quite certain I read that he did get a practice in before today's game.

dumbell78 wrote:just to back peddle on this a little:

KD went from not being able to practice before game 4 to playing in game 5. I don't know how you can medically clear that, have to think it was KD pushing to get out there.

Even if he was, the med staff and team should’ve prevented it. The fact that they didn’t leads me to believe either they are incompetent or the team downplayed the injury and the risks.

Said it in the last thread, I can almost guarantee he had a tear in the achilles in the original injury. It likely led to a lump (tendinitis) and over the 30 days the “lump” subsided. He likely couldn’t get through practice due to stiffness in the achilles/the lump re-emerging, which also leads to calf pain. Pushing physically on such an injury leads to the risk of rupturing the achilles.

The team quote along the lines of “he doesn’t face risk of serious injury, only possibly re-tweaking the calf (by playing)” is a pretty strong indictment against the Warriors and their med staff. Hell, if this were the Bulls we’d already have articles and multiple page threads hammering the organization.

This whole ordeal is so reminiscent of Grant Hill and the Pistons.....An organization choosing short term success over the health of a player. Eventually there will be some pretty damning facts coming out about this.