Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season

Post #681 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:49 am

dice wrote:they traded what will likely end up being 3 second rounders for him and he hasn't played a game for them yet. picking up the option is their only chance to save face. perhaps that was the plan all along

I guess they have legitimate hope for him, or they just don't understand sunk costs.

TheStig · Post #682 » by **TheStig** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:23 pm

dougthonus wrote:Little surprised Fultz got his option picked up given how huge it was. I guess it makes sense that if Orlando was going to take the chance on trading for him that they'd have to give him two years, but that's a pricey option for a guy who is questionable about whether he belongs in the league.

Even crappy #1 picks get their options picked up. I'm not surprised. He's gonna get chances for years.

I also think people still see talent and figure it can't get worse.

Post #683 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:33 pm

TheStig wrote:Even crappy #1 picks get their options picked up. I'm not surprised. He's gonna get chances for years.

I also think people still see talent and figure it can't get worse.

It doesn't have to get worse, he's no where remotely worth his contract now.

Anthony Bennett had his 4th year option declined, so it isn't entirely unheard of.

TheStig · Post #684 » by **TheStig** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:39 pm

dougthonus wrote:
TheStig wrote:Even crappy #1 picks get their options picked up. I'm not surprised. He's gonna get chances for years.

I also think people still see talent and figure it can't get worse.

It doesn't have to get worse, he's no where remotely worth his contract now.

Anthony Bennett had his 4th year option declined, so it isn't entirely unheard of.

I think people see the potential and the production can't get worse.

Fair but he's the only 1.

Post #685 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:59 pm

TheStig wrote:I think people see the potential and the production can't get worse.

Fair but he's the only 1.

Sure, it's pretty rare for a #1 pick to be out of the league quality so short into his career. Fultz is probably not yet at out of the league bad, but he's surely feels like "not worth 12m a year" bad right now which is what that 4th year option was for.

I guess if you have some hope then maybe it's worth the gamble just to have his bird rights.

TheStig · Post #686 » by **TheStig** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:12 pm

dougthonus wrote:
TheStig wrote:I think people see the potential and the production can't get worse.

Fair but he's the only 1.

Sure, it's pretty rare for a #1 pick to be out of the league quality so short into his career. Fultz is probably not yet at out of the league bad, but he's surely feels like "not worth 12m a year" bad right now which is what that 4th year option was for.

I guess if you have some hope then maybe it's worth the gamble just to have his bird rights.

Doug, I think his previous work doesn't warrant the salary but we don't know what he's done this summer. Maybe he's been working out with the Magic and his jumper looks better. If that's the case, I can see why they picked up his option.

Post #687 » by **dougthonus** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:15 pm

TheStig wrote:Doug, I think his previous work doesn't warrant the salary but we don't know what he's done this summer. Maybe he's been working out with the Magic and his jumper looks better. If that's the case, I can see why they picked up his option.

Who knows. I think they just doubled down on taking the chance. They know they won't get their value this year, and if they don't pick up his option lose bird rights and if he breaks out then they just lost a player. I haven't looked at the Magic cap situation, it may also simply be that their cap situation makes it amenable for them to pay the extra money and not worry about it next season.

This season is a terrible FA class, so saving money for it may not really have been a meaningful priority for them (or anyone else).

FriedRise · Post #688 » by **FriedRise** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:09 pm

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So how else can we bamboozle the Wizards?

TheStig · Post #689 » by **TheStig** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:38 pm

dougthonus wrote:
TheStig wrote:Doug, I think his previous work doesn't warrant the salary but we don't know what he's done this summer. Maybe he's been working out with the Magic and his jumper looks better. If that's the case, I can see why they picked up his option.

Who knows. I think they just doubled down on taking the chance. They know they won't get their value this year, and if they don't pick up his option lose bird rights and if he breaks out then they just lost a player. I haven't looked at the Magic cap situation, it may also simply be that their cap situation makes it amenable for them to pay the extra money and not worry about it next season.

This season is a terrible FA class, so saving money for it may not really have been a meaningful priority for them (or anyone else).

I would think they've had to have seen something in workouts or the summer. 12 million is not terrible for a 6th man and possible DJ replacement. They don't have any max guys either.

MrFortune3 · Post #690 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:47 am

dougthonus wrote:
TheStig wrote:Even crappy #1 picks get their options picked up. I'm not surprised. He's gonna get chances for years.

I also think people still see talent and figure it can't get worse.

It doesn't have to get worse, he's no where remotely worth his contract now.

Anthony Bennett had his 4th year option declined, so it isn't entirely unheard of.

Bennett sucked ass without the benefit of an injury excuse. Fultz at least has that.

jc23 · Post #691 » by **jc23** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:16 pm

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when the sky traded EDD they immediately lost this fan, what a stupid move.

Jeffster81 · Post #692 » by **Jeffster81** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm

jc23 wrote:

Read on Twitter

when the sky traded EDD they immediately lost this fan, what a stupid move.

Just like Fowles before her (and Dupree years ago), EDD wanted out. Fowles and EDD on the same court, probably would have brought the Sky a championship.

Hangtime84 · Post #693 » by **Hangtime84** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:
jc23 wrote:

Read on Twitter

when the sky traded EDD they immediately lost this fan, what a stupid move.

Just like Fowles before her (and Dupree years ago), EDD wanted out. Fowles and EDD on the same court, probably would have brought the Sky a championship.

I really dislike Fowles and EDD for that at least EDD left cause she wanted be closer to her sister.

Both pulled Jimmy Bulter and sat out the season. Those two could have made WNBA pop off if they stayed in Chicago. Or even if Candace Parker came home and teamed up with them.

Oh well ***** WNBA

Post #694 » by **kulaz3000** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:09 am

It looks like some of the other teams have started their media day.

Do we have a date for when the Bulls will be holding theirs?

Looks like training camp for the Bulls is startin 1st October, so perhaps they'll hold media day late next week.

Post #695 » by **RedBulls23** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:47 am

jc23 wrote:

Read on Twitter

when the sky traded EDD they immediately lost this fan, what a stupid move.

She wanted out, and requested to be traded closer to her hometown.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-elena-delle-donne-sky-trade-spt-0125-20170124-story.html

Post #696 » by **RedBulls23** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:48 am

kulaz3000 wrote:It looks like some of the other teams have started their media day.

Do we have a date for when the Bulls will be holding theirs?

Looks like training camp for the Bulls is startin 1st October, so perhaps they'll hold media day late next week.

Read on Twitter

Also, I don't think any team has a media day planned before the 27th.

BeKuK · Post #697 » by **BeKuK** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:16 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:It looks like some of the other teams have started their media day.

Do we have a date for when the Bulls will be holding theirs?

Looks like training camp for the Bulls is startin 1st October, so perhaps they'll hold media day late next week.

Read on Twitter

Also, I don't think any team has a media day planned before the 27th.

Finally, it means we are gettingc closer and closer to the start of the season. Thank god!

bearadonisdna · Post #698 » by **bearadonisdna** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:16 pm

Yeah EDD has a special needs sister, so if she wanted to be closer I think most ppl have to respect that.

jc23 · Post #699 » by **jc23** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:13 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:Yeah EDD has a special needs sister, so if she wanted to be closer I think most ppl have to respect that.

what about my needs? ha yeah i didnt know the backstory.

dumbell78 · Post #700 » by **dumbell78** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:53 pm

So what are you guys doing with streaming this year? Most doing league pass? I had LP couple years back but the quality was awful and bandwidth was atrocious to be honest. At times had the pixilation of a toaster. NBA streams via reddit was my fallback when I wasn't using the Slingbox in Chicago. Probably wont be using the Slingbox going forward so thinking of giving LP another shot.