Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season

[kodo]

Beal just got a max extension for $130M for 4 years.

Per 36 #s Beal vs Lavine
25.0 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.3 apg 47% FG 35% 3P 58% TS
24.7 ppg 4.9 rpg 4.7 apg 46% FG 37% 3P 57% TS

Lavine's 4 year contract is for $78M.

[MrSparkle]

Sounds like Zion’s got a knee injury...

[kulaz3000]

Sounds like Zion’s got a knee injury...

He needs to lose weight, it's as simple as that.

If he was a simple back to the basket type of player, fine - but he isn't. The way he moves, torques his body, jump steps, there is only so much weight his knees, legs and feet can handle over time.

He might as well strip down his weight sooner rather than later, otherwise he could end up having a spectacular but short career.

[Payt10]

Sounds like Zion’s got a knee injury...

That's the biggest worry for him. Those knees, with that body, with that vertical explosiveness, is a recipe for concern. He needs to lose at least 15 pounds, otherwise I could see him becoming a Joel Embiid-like player who will spend the majority of his career on some type of injury maintenance program to protect him from himself.

[dice]

Beal just got a max extension for $130M for 4 years.

Per 36 #s Beal vs Lavine
25.0 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.3 apg 47% FG 35% 3P 58% TS
24.7 ppg 4.9 rpg 4.7 apg 46% FG 37% 3P 57% TS

Lavine's 4 year contract is for $78M.

beal will be paid 30.1/8.84 = $3.4 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons
lavine will be paid 19.5/3.57 = $5.5 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons

additionally, beal has averaged 11 more games per season and has no major injury history

[kodo]

Beal just got a max extension for $130M for 4 years.

Per 36 #s Beal vs Lavine
25.0 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.3 apg 47% FG 35% 3P 58% TS
24.7 ppg 4.9 rpg 4.7 apg 46% FG 37% 3P 57% TS

Lavine's 4 year contract is for $78M.

beal will be paid 30.1/8.84 = $3.4 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons
lavine will be paid 19.5/3.57 = $5.5 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons

additionally, beal has averaged 11 more games per season and has no major injury history

RPM is an interesting stat but not one to base contracts on. In 2018 Otto Porter & Lebron James had identical RPM. Nobody sane would say these two are close in value on a free market.

Roleplayers who do their job well can have high RPMs, as Robert Covington was much higher than Lebron that same year. Both contribute to winning, but a winning roleplayer simply doesn't get paid as much as primary scoring options that lead teams, even losing ones like Booker.

[dice]

Beal just got a max extension for $130M for 4 years.

Per 36 #s Beal vs Lavine
25.0 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.3 apg 47% FG 35% 3P 58% TS
24.7 ppg 4.9 rpg 4.7 apg 46% FG 37% 3P 57% TS

Lavine's 4 year contract is for $78M.

beal will be paid 30.1/8.84 = $3.4 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons
lavine will be paid 19.5/3.57 = $5.5 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons

additionally, beal has averaged 11 more games per season and has no major injury history

RPM is an interesting stat but not one to base contracts on. In 2018 Otto Porter & Lebron James had identical RPM. Nobody sane would say these two are close in value on a free market.

Roleplayers who do their job well can have high RPMs, as Robert Covington was much higher than Lebron that same year. Both contribute to winning, but a winning roleplayer simply doesn't get paid as much as primary scoring options that lead teams, even losing ones like Booker.

except that neither lavine nor beal is a role player

and otto porter got paid based on his all-around contribution. which is what RPM measures

and the free market is quite often wrong. see andrew wiggins

unless the "role player" does well in advanced stats as a result of being in a particular system, his value is absolutely as high as a star with similar numbers. the performance of stars is not confined to a particular system

[ZOMG]

Sounds like Zion’s got a knee injury...

He needs to lose weight, it's as simple as that.

If he was a simple back to the basket type of player, fine - but he isn't. The way he moves, torques his body, jump steps, there is only so much weight his knees, legs and feet can handle over time.

He might as well strip down his weight sooner rather than later, otherwise he could end up having a spectacular but short career.

In addition to this weight, Zion has the problem that he's slightly knock-kneed. That in itself predisposes a basketball player to knee injuries. LeBron is strongly bow-legged, and he's been able to avoid all knee injuries despite collecting an incredible amount of miles and playing with a high-risk style.

[DASMACKDOWN]

I mean, it is a legit concern for Zion if he already has knee soreness. He probably will ultimately have to lose weight just for durability sake.

If he doesn't, Zion is going to be treated like a 10 year vet in his rookie season. Missing games due to load management and no back to backs.

I really hope he can work things out. One of my favorite players to watch in basketball.

[ZOMG]

I mean, it is a legit concern for Zion if he already has knee soreness. He probably will ultimately have to lose weight just for durability sake.

If he doesn't, Zion is going to be treated like a 10 year vet in his rookie season. Missing games due to load management and no back to backs.

I really hope he can work things out. One of my favorite players to watch in basketball.

Meanwhile, RJ Barrett is looking like a guy who will have a 20 year career.

[DASMACKDOWN]

Its early but this year is shaping up to be a really great rookie class.

There have been alot of impressive rookie showings so far in preseason. They are all on the right path.

I can certainly see mulitple allstars going forward from this draft.

[Ccwatercraft]

Beal just got a max extension for $130M for 4 years.

Per 36 #s Beal vs Lavine
25.0 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.3 apg 47% FG 35% 3P 58% TS
24.7 ppg 4.9 rpg 4.7 apg 46% FG 37% 3P 57% TS

Lavine's 4 year contract is for $78M.

beal will be paid 30.1/8.84 = $3.4 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons
lavine will be paid 19.5/3.57 = $5.5 mil per RPM win produced over next 3 seasons

additionally, beal has averaged 11 more games per season and has no major injury history

RPM is an interesting stat but not one to base contracts on. In 2018 Otto Porter & Lebron James had identical RPM. Nobody sane would say these two are close in value on a free market.

Roleplayers who do their job well can have high RPMs, as Robert Covington was much higher than Lebron that same year. Both contribute to winning, but a winning roleplayer simply doesn't get paid as much as primary scoring options that lead teams, even losing ones like Booker.

agree, rpm can be deceptive, winning teams vs tanking teams. but it identifies the studs consistently.

[Ccwatercraft]

I mean, it is a legit concern for Zion if he already has knee soreness. He probably will ultimately have to lose weight just for durability sake.

If he doesn't, Zion is going to be treated like a 10 year vet in his rookie season. Missing games due to load management and no back to backs.

I really hope he can work things out. One of my favorite players to watch in basketball.

Meanwhile, RJ Barrett is looking like a guy who will have a 20 year career.

I wonder what kind of monster haul New Orleans could have received for the number one pick...

Did any team even attempt a serious offer?

[Michael Jackson]

I mean, it is a legit concern for Zion if he already has knee soreness. He probably will ultimately have to lose weight just for durability sake.

If he doesn't, Zion is going to be treated like a 10 year vet in his rookie season. Missing games due to load management and no back to backs.

I really hope he can work things out. One of my favorite players to watch in basketball.

Meanwhile, RJ Barrett is looking like a guy who will have a 20 year career.

I wonder what kind of monster haul New Orleans could have received for the number one pick...

Did any team even attempt a serious offer?

I'm sure someone called but they were quickly dismissed. Adam Silver didn't go through all the work of rigging the lottery for a low level team to get the first pick because they were going to lose a player just to have them trade it. They did it for Cleveland with Kyrie after LBJ left so they owed NOP. Now mind you I don't really believe any of this.


You have to keep Zion though. No business mind can say no. Him on a rookie contract is better business than anything else in the NBA by a long shot.

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[Jcool0]

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[Ice Man]

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Yikes. Of course knee strains happen, but given Zion's unprecedented weight (for an NBA player of his age and height) this has to be a major concern.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Reason why If I was the Pelicans I would've kept AD. This was always a question mark about Zion due to his weight. A bright future could go dark quickly if he cant hold up. Not like what they received in return is that good.

A trio of AD/Zion/Holiday and also the use of a solid amount of cap space they could've created a team that could win now.

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[DASMACKDOWN]

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Yikes. Of course knee strains happen, but given Zion's unprecedented weight (for an NBA player of his age and height) this has to be a major concern.

oh mannnnn. This can't be good.