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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#21 » by DuckIII » Thu Sep 5, 2019 2:28 pm

ZOMG wrote:Ugh. I forgot Kris Dunn is still here.

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Dunn being there under the circumstances is a great sign. Perhaps not so much for his performance specifically, but for his attitude as a teammate when it’s well known the organization wants to move on. Everyone grabbing an oar and pulling the same way might be the second most important factor this season behind health.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#22 » by khufure » Thu Sep 5, 2019 2:53 pm

WCJ and White looking not swoll. Hopefully they been on the court so much Gym is a distant second compared to the gains in fundamentals? Maybe it's too soon to post it about a rookie but 2nd year top-10 pick player needs to show growth.

Is it me or does Dunn look like he has HGH face here? Maybe it's whatever he's doing with his tongue/jaw :)
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#23 » by gardenofsound » Thu Sep 5, 2019 3:08 pm

khufure wrote:WCJ and White looking not swoll. Hopefully they been on the court so much Gym is a distant second compared to the gains in fundamentals? Maybe it's too soon to post it about a rookie but 2nd year top-10 pick player needs to show growth.

Is it me or does Dunn look like he has HGH face here? Maybe it's whatever he's doing with his tongue/jaw :)
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You'd be surprised what kind of still shots would be caught of anyone while working out.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#24 » by dougthonus » Thu Sep 5, 2019 3:10 pm

ZOMG wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Theoretically, there's nothing Harrison can do that Dunn probably can't do equally well while also doing other things better.


I'm not a big Shaq fan, but he knows to stay in his lane. That's what we need from the 6th-7th options on this team. Including Dunn.

Dunn is the lone distraction on a roster that's otherwise surprisingly promising. Get rid of him.


First, you won't cut Dunn either way. His salary is too valuable in trade matching situations.

I also think your comparison may be right, but here are a few things to consider:

1: You assume Dunn is a distraction instead of a guy busting his ass in his contract year.

2: You assume Dunn won't stay in his lane.

3: You assume that the rest of the roster will be good enough that having a much less talented Shaq won't be a problem. Bulls gave up on JR Smith in 2005 for that reason, and man would he have been perfect if they kept him.

I'm not that high on Dunn, but I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way in how Bulls fans view him.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#25 » by Proven_Winner » Thu Sep 5, 2019 4:21 pm

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dougthonus wrote:Theoretically, there's nothing Harrison can do that Dunn probably can't do equally well while also doing other things better.


I'm not a big Shaq fan, but he knows to stay in his lane. That's what we need from the 6th-7th options on this team. Including Dunn.

Dunn is the lone distraction on a roster that's otherwise surprisingly promising. Get rid of him.


First, you won't cut Dunn either way. His salary is too valuable in trade matching situations.

I also think your comparison may be right, but here are a few things to consider:

1: You assume Dunn is a distraction instead of a guy busting his ass in his contract year.

2: You assume Dunn won't stay in his lane.

3: You assume that the rest of the roster will be good enough that having a much less talented Shaq won't be a problem. Bulls gave up on JR Smith in 2005 for that reason, and man would he have been perfect if they kept him.

I'm not that high on Dunn, but I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way in how Bulls fans view him.


I agree especially with the last part. Dunn I think is more so disappointing than horrible. He’s nowhere near felicio type of bad.

The guy does have purpose he just needs to tighten up his game. I can understand being in and out with injury but he surely could’ve worked better on fundamentals like dribbling especially for a PG.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#26 » by khufure » Thu Sep 5, 2019 5:41 pm

madvillian wrote:Those "dickies" look like something they pulled out of the 7th grade PE closet.

Also, the boosts zach has on are sick. might have to get me a pair like that.

Did you find out what kind he has? I might buy a set too.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#27 » by madvillian » Thu Sep 5, 2019 5:56 pm

khufure wrote:
madvillian wrote:Those "dickies" look like something they pulled out of the 7th grade PE closet.

Also, the boosts zach has on are sick. might have to get me a pair like that.

Did you find out what kind he has? I might buy a set too.


Couldn't find them anywhere. They must be a custom design from Adidas he got or they are releasing it this year or something and he got a preview pair.
dumbell78 wrote:Random comment....Mikal Bridges stroke is dripping right now in summer league. Carry on.


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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#28 » by ChettheJet » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:21 pm

Anybody that was injured last year or is on a short term contract and on the roster like 11-15 better show up early and start working harder than anybody else.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#29 » by Showtime23 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:24 pm

dougthonus wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Theoretically, there's nothing Harrison can do that Dunn probably can't do equally well while also doing other things better.


I'm not a big Shaq fan, but he knows to stay in his lane. That's what we need from the 6th-7th options on this team. Including Dunn.

Dunn is the lone distraction on a roster that's otherwise surprisingly promising. Get rid of him.


First, you won't cut Dunn either way. His salary is too valuable in trade matching situations.

I also think your comparison may be right, but here are a few things to consider:

1: You assume Dunn is a distraction instead of a guy busting his ass in his contract year.

2: You assume Dunn won't stay in his lane.

3: You assume that the rest of the roster will be good enough that having a much less talented Shaq won't be a problem. Bulls gave up on JR Smith in 2005 for that reason, and man would he have been perfect if they kept him.

I'm not that high on Dunn, but I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way in how Bulls fans view him.


Even if Dunn wasnt problematic how does he even get minutes assuming Sato plays 30 and lottery pick gets rest of the minutes?
Do you really think Dunn will enjoy DNPs, 15min games when he was literally gifted the starting position?
Also the talent difference btwn Dunn and Shaq isnt that high. Shaq gets the nod since he buys into the system.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#30 » by Showtime23 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:30 pm

Dunn is more of a iso player that rarely buys into the system which makes him less inclined to communicate and decide everything by himself. Even if he wasnt hotheaded like JR the team environment (imagine Sato getting along with White and other pgs) will literally make him ragequit and be toxic on the team since hes usless.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#31 » by madvillian » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:48 pm

Showtime23 wrote:Dunn is more of a iso player that rarely buys into the system which makes him less inclined to communicate and decide everything by himself. Even if he wasnt hotheaded like JR the team environment (imagine Sato getting along with White and other pgs) will literally make him ragequit and be toxic on the team since hes usless.


Dunn can go two ways this year. He can buckle down, play a role, and get another guaranteed contract. Or he can sulk, play badly, lose his backup role to Archie, and be playing for a contract in SL and training camp in 2020.

Hopefully he knows he's only got one option for his long term future in the league. Commit to being a defensive specialist with the 2nd unit or else.
dumbell78 wrote:Random comment....Mikal Bridges stroke is dripping right now in summer league. Carry on.


I'll go ahead and make a sig bet that Mikal is better by RPM this year than Zach.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#32 » by Mr. Tibbs » Thu Sep 5, 2019 7:04 pm

Didn't want to start a new thread figured this one would work...anyone know if Valentine has been cleared for 5 on 5 yet?
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#33 » by khufure » Thu Sep 5, 2019 8:33 pm

madvillian wrote:
khufure wrote:
madvillian wrote:Those "dickies" look like something they pulled out of the 7th grade PE closet.

Also, the boosts zach has on are sick. might have to get me a pair like that.

Did you find out what kind he has? I might buy a set too.


Couldn't find them anywhere. They must be a custom design from Adidas he got or they are releasing it this year or something and he got a preview pair.

I think you are right. I looked as well.

I got kind of high arches, so although I'm sad I couldn't find this pair it's probably for the best. Adidas shoes usually suck for arch support. This particular pair doesn't look as bad as most of theirs, though.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#34 » by meekrab » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:08 pm

sco wrote:To me, just being rid of Blakeney would be a huge boost. That guy is a walking LOSS. May be the most negatively impactful player in the NBA.

Having a guy like Blakeney as the 15th guy on the bench who can go out there and guarantee a loss is convenient, because if your 15th man is playing anything but garbage time you should probably be tanking the season anyway.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#35 » by sco » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:11 pm

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sco wrote:To me, just being rid of Blakeney would be a huge boost. That guy is a walking LOSS. May be the most negatively impactful player in the NBA.

Having a guy like Blakeney as the 15th guy on the bench who can go out there and guarantee a loss is convenient, because if your 15th man is playing anything but garbage time you should probably be tanking the season anyway.

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Post#36 » by Taikuri » Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:54 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:Didn’t know where to post this and it’s slow right now so I figured I make a new thread. Chicago Bulls website posted pictures of the bulls training and scrimmaging today. Looks like most of the team is already there. I saw Dunn,White, Lavine, Porter, Markannan, Carter, Young, Kornet, Gafford, Moka. That’s basically the whole team besides Sato and Felicio who’s playing for the World Cup. They posted pictures of Hutchison, Valentine, Blankley, and Archi there last week. It’s good seeing the guys come in early to train with eachother and develop chemistry with eachother. Sorry but I don’t know how to post pictures.


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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#37 » by Bulliever2020 » Sun Sep 8, 2019 4:36 pm

I wouldn't say arriving early. Unless you are a veteran established star or have previous national team commitments, it is pretty standard for the players to come in pretty immediately after labor day weekend to start working out. Still nice to see though.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#38 » by Ccwatercraft » Mon Sep 9, 2019 1:58 pm

ZOMG wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Theoretically, there's nothing Harrison can do that Dunn probably can't do equally well while also doing other things better.


I'm not a big Shaq fan, but he knows to stay in his lane. That's what we need from the 6th-7th options on this team. Including Dunn.

Dunn is the lone distraction on a roster that's otherwise surprisingly promising. Get rid of him.


in what way is he a distraction?

I haven't read anything to indicate that he's a locker room problem or being disliked, did I miss something?

Or is he just a fan distraction?
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#39 » by sco » Mon Sep 9, 2019 2:28 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Theoretically, there's nothing Harrison can do that Dunn probably can't do equally well while also doing other things better.


I'm not a big Shaq fan, but he knows to stay in his lane. That's what we need from the 6th-7th options on this team. Including Dunn.

Dunn is the lone distraction on a roster that's otherwise surprisingly promising. Get rid of him.


in what way is he a distraction?

I haven't read anything to indicate that he's a locker room problem or being disliked, did I miss something?

Or is he just a fan distraction?

I am guilty of wanting Dunn traded just to make sure that we primarily see Sato and White getting PG minutes. I've seen the unintentional consequences of "open competitions" in the past and want to avoid those. I agree that Dunn hasn't said or done anything to suggest he won't be a total pro. I also am a fan of making rookies earn minutes.
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Re: Bulls arriving early for summer workouts 

Post#40 » by bledredwine » Mon Sep 9, 2019 5:10 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:Good to see them all together.

I believe the younger players were there much earlier practicsing and working out at the Bull facilities. However, it's usually the veterans who joins later on.

There are two players I'm keying on more than anyone else this season, and that's Lauri and WCJ. I'm expecting big seasons from the both of them, or at least that's the hope.


Same.

To be honest, I expect Wendell to have his true breakout season next year. I do expect him to have a good season this year though. Lauri however, I fully believe will have a heck of a year.

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