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Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:52 am
by NDave79
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
mlitney01 wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:

WTF! I know Larry Legend had a bunch of illegitimate kids but nothing like that. Gross.


Does anyone have more illegitimate children than Shawn Kemp?


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I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me he's DeRozan's dad
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Hmmm, young Wilt did look a lot like Derozan. Maybe he is Otto's dad as well, lol.

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Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:57 am
by RakimAbdulJabar
NDave79 wrote:Maybe he is Otto's dad as well, lol.


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Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:13 pm
by ATRAIN53
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
Hmmm, young Wilt did look a lot like Derozan. Maybe he is Otto's dad as well, lol.

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Whoa :o

10,000k + women, there's a pretty good shot

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:38 pm
by MAQ
DuckIII wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:LeBron too but hard to judge since he didn’t dominate other sports although we all know he could.


LeBron was first team Ohio all-state as a wide receiver his sophomore and junior years in HS and had offers from every major program that hadn’t ruled him out due to his basketball dominance. He chose not to play his senior year but prior to that was a nationally elite football prospect.

I think he actually broke his wrist the summer of his junior to senior year falling from a dunk. would have been foolish to risk the surefire millions that were months away, but I wonder if he would have played had that not happened.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:44 pm
by Stratmaster
I wouldn't even try to venture a guess as we are likely not even aware of some of the worst things players have done. Besides, let those without sin, etc.

From a basketball behavior related standpoint, sadly i would have to list 3 former Bulls in the 1 through 4 positions. I would fill those with Isaiah Thomas, DRose and Jimmy Butler. Dennis Rodman would likely be a candidate at the 4.

But again, that isn't worst human beings. That is worst bball related behavior on and off the court.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:31 am
by johnnyvann840
Stratmaster wrote:I wouldn't even try to venture a guess as we are likely not even aware of some of the worst things players have done. Besides, let those without sin, etc.

From a basketball behavior related standpoint, sadly i would have to list 3 former Bulls in the 1 through 4 positions. I would fill those with Isaiah Thomas, DRose and Jimmy Butler. Dennis Rodman would likely be a candidate at the 4.

But again, that isn't worst human beings. That is worst bball related behavior on and off the court.


How is Rose, Butler and Rodman even on a list when there are guys like Javaris Crittendon who killed somebody and was busted for dealing large amounts of cocaine and raped women?

I mean what on earth did Jimmy Butler ever do (at least that we know of) that was even in the same stratosphere? The whole D Rose "we men" thing was not his finest moment but the girl was also not the most believable. Nobody knows what happened there. Whether it was consensual or not, Rose was cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter-- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2667510-derrick-rose-civil-trial-latest-details-comments-and-more ... Rodman might be a freak, but I don't think he's that terrible of a person. The worst thing he's done is petty theft of some weird stuff and being buddies with a cruel oppressive dictator. Jimmy might be an A hole but he's never done anything that remotely qualifies in comparison to Cousins or Crittendon or Isiah "Zeke" Thomas. Or James Dolan for that matter.

Basketball behavior related? WTF does that even have to do with "worst person". Jimmy was an arrogant prick of a teammate to some of his teammates whom he felt weren't putting in the effort. Crittendon was a trafficker of hard drugs and killed somebody. Cousins threatened the life of his childs mother. Zeke was a repeat sexual assault perp. Come on man. Rose and Butler? even Worm. No. Sorry. Those guys do not belong in the same sentence is those others.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:04 pm
by Stratmaster
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:I wouldn't even try to venture a guess as we are likely not even aware of some of the worst things players have done. Besides, let those without sin, etc.

From a basketball behavior related standpoint, sadly i would have to list 3 former Bulls in the 1 through 4 positions. I would fill those with Isaiah Thomas, DRose and Jimmy Butler. Dennis Rodman would likely be a candidate at the 4.

But again, that isn't worst human beings. That is worst bball related behavior on and off the court.


How is Rose, Butler and Rodman even on a list when there are guys like Javaris Crittendon who killed somebody and was busted for dealing large amounts of cocaine and raped women?

I mean what on earth did Jimmy Butler ever do (at least that we know of) that was even in the same stratosphere? The whole D Rose "we men" thing was not his finest moment but the girl was also not the most believable. Nobody knows what happened there. Whether it was consensual or not, Rose was cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter-- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2667510-derrick-rose-civil-trial-latest-details-comments-and-more ... Rodman might be a freak, but I don't think he's that terrible of a person. The worst thing he's done is petty theft of some weird stuff and being buddies with a cruel oppressive dictator. Jimmy might be an A hole but he's never done anything that remotely qualifies in comparison to Cousins or Crittendon or Isiah "Zeke" Thomas. Or James Dolan for that matter.

Basketball behavior related? WTF does that even have to do with "worst person". Jimmy was an arrogant prick of a teammate to some of his teammates whom he felt weren't putting in the effort. Crittendon was a trafficker of hard drugs and killed somebody. Cousins threatened the life of his childs mother. Zeke was a repeat sexual assault perp. Come on man. Rose and Butler? even Worm. No. Sorry. Those guys do not belong in the same sentence is those others.


You might try reading my post again FFS. You know where i said twice i wasn't even going to venture an opinion on non basketball things like, as you say, murder; and then explained why.

And i didn't mention them in the same sentence as anyone so IDK WTF you are talking about.

But hey. Here's to a new season with more of the usual!

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Fri Oct 4, 2019 9:55 pm
by johnnyvann840
Stratmaster wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:I wouldn't even try to venture a guess as we are likely not even aware of some of the worst things players have done. Besides, let those without sin, etc.

From a basketball behavior related standpoint, sadly i would have to list 3 former Bulls in the 1 through 4 positions. I would fill those with Isaiah Thomas, DRose and Jimmy Butler. Dennis Rodman would likely be a candidate at the 4.

But again, that isn't worst human beings. That is worst bball related behavior on and off the court.


How is Rose, Butler and Rodman even on a list when there are guys like Javaris Crittendon who killed somebody and was busted for dealing large amounts of cocaine and raped women?

I mean what on earth did Jimmy Butler ever do (at least that we know of) that was even in the same stratosphere? The whole D Rose "we men" thing was not his finest moment but the girl was also not the most believable. Nobody knows what happened there. Whether it was consensual or not, Rose was cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter-- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2667510-derrick-rose-civil-trial-latest-details-comments-and-more ... Rodman might be a freak, but I don't think he's that terrible of a person. The worst thing he's done is petty theft of some weird stuff and being buddies with a cruel oppressive dictator. Jimmy might be an A hole but he's never done anything that remotely qualifies in comparison to Cousins or Crittendon or Isiah "Zeke" Thomas. Or James Dolan for that matter.

Basketball behavior related? WTF does that even have to do with "worst person". Jimmy was an arrogant prick of a teammate to some of his teammates whom he felt weren't putting in the effort. Crittendon was a trafficker of hard drugs and killed somebody. Cousins threatened the life of his childs mother. Zeke was a repeat sexual assault perp. Come on man. Rose and Butler? even Worm. No. Sorry. Those guys do not belong in the same sentence is those others.


You might try reading my post again FFS. You know where i said twice i wasn't even going to venture an opinion on non basketball things like, as you say, murder; and then explained why.

And i didn't mention them in the same sentence as anyone so IDK WTF you are talking about.

But hey. Here's to a new season with more of the usual!


Settle down there, Chachi. It's OK, really.

Still have a couple questions about your opinions on the matter. What things from a basketball behavior related standpoint did Butler, Isiah or Rodman do that was detrimental to their respective teams. We know Rose supposedly sat out after being cleared by doctors... Outside of calling out young teammates about not working hard enough or whatever his problem was. However, on the floor, the numbers speak for themselves. Butler has been one of the highest impact positive players in the NBA for the last several seasons. His teams, regardless of being the Bulls, the Wolves or the 76ers were all immensely better with Butler than without him. Huge swings in Jimmy's favor. So, it doesn't appear he had a negative effect on any of his teams. He's also made everybody around him much better as well.

Also, as much as I cannot stand Zeke as a person, I don't recall him ever hurting his teams. Leading the "no handshake deal" was lame but the series was over. Kissing Magic Johnson on the lips was a little weird but again... how did that hurt the Pistons? He was one hell of a player despite being a phony POS off the court.

Same question for Rodman. A freak on and off the court? sure. Basketball related behavior being a problem for his teams? I don't think so. At least not the Bulls and Pistons. All they did was win Championships with Rodman.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Mon Oct 7, 2019 3:54 pm
by Stratmaster
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
How is Rose, Butler and Rodman even on a list when there are guys like Javaris Crittendon who killed somebody and was busted for dealing large amounts of cocaine and raped women?

I mean what on earth did Jimmy Butler ever do (at least that we know of) that was even in the same stratosphere? The whole D Rose "we men" thing was not his finest moment but the girl was also not the most believable. Nobody knows what happened there. Whether it was consensual or not, Rose was cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter-- https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2667510-derrick-rose-civil-trial-latest-details-comments-and-more ... Rodman might be a freak, but I don't think he's that terrible of a person. The worst thing he's done is petty theft of some weird stuff and being buddies with a cruel oppressive dictator. Jimmy might be an A hole but he's never done anything that remotely qualifies in comparison to Cousins or Crittendon or Isiah "Zeke" Thomas. Or James Dolan for that matter.

Basketball behavior related? WTF does that even have to do with "worst person". Jimmy was an arrogant prick of a teammate to some of his teammates whom he felt weren't putting in the effort. Crittendon was a trafficker of hard drugs and killed somebody. Cousins threatened the life of his childs mother. Zeke was a repeat sexual assault perp. Come on man. Rose and Butler? even Worm. No. Sorry. Those guys do not belong in the same sentence is those others.


You might try reading my post again FFS. You know where i said twice i wasn't even going to venture an opinion on non basketball things like, as you say, murder; and then explained why.

And i didn't mention them in the same sentence as anyone so IDK WTF you are talking about.

But hey. Here's to a new season with more of the usual!


Settle down there, Chachi. It's OK, really.

Still have a couple questions about your opinions on the matter. What things from a basketball behavior related standpoint did Butler, Isiah or Rodman do that was detrimental to their respective teams. We know Rose supposedly sat out after being cleared by doctors... Outside of calling out young teammates about not working hard enough or whatever his problem was. However, on the floor, the numbers speak for themselves. Butler has been one of the highest impact positive players in the NBA for the last several seasons. His teams, regardless of being the Bulls, the Wolves or the 76ers were all immensely better with Butler than without him. Huge swings in Jimmy's favor. So, it doesn't appear he had a negative effect on any of his teams. He's also made everybody around him much better as well.

Also, as much as I cannot stand Zeke as a person, I don't recall him ever hurting his teams. Leading the "no handshake deal" was lame but the series was over. Kissing Magic Johnson on the lips was a little weird but again... how did that hurt the Pistons? He was one hell of a player despite being a phony POS off the court.

Same question for Rodman. A freak on and off the court? sure. Basketball related behavior being a problem for his teams? I don't think so. At least not the Bulls and Pistons. All they did was win Championships with Rodman.


First off. You were the one who lashed out at my post "Chachi".

2nd, you continue to set your own definition of what I stated I was responding to. I never said a thing about their sffect on their teams records, or being great players. I said bad basketball related behavior.

You want so badly to argue with me. Want to try again? If you can at least respond to what I said, and not what you wish I would have said so you can argue, I will be happy to explain.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:54 pm
by bullsnewdynasty
I have no idea how the Malone thing isn’t more well known. If a guy did that today, he would be exiled from the game. Yet you still see the guy on the TNT set and things like that. Crazy how players got away with stuff like that in the non social media era.

Re: All NBA worst person team

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 pm
by Michael Jackson
bullsnewdynasty wrote:I have no idea how the Malone thing isn’t more well known. If a guy did that today, he would be exiled from the game. Yet you still see the guy on the TNT set and things like that. Crazy how players got away with stuff like that in the non social media era.



I think it had to do with him being in Utah and being marketed as a conservative clean cut kinda guy. If his actions were I. The spotlight his marketability would have gone way down.