Mark K wrote:Maybe you can elaborate further and explain because to me I see no reasonable argument to suggest Atkinson was pretty awful during his tenure in Brooklyn.
I don't think I can, because I've said it so succinctly so many times. If you just can't even see the argument then it's because you aren't trying and don't want to see it and are just locked into your opinion based on what I would guess is extremely little real information. I can see your argument. I think it's optimistic, but I think it's plausible and could be true and have stated it many times.
One more time though:
Competed with tanking teams while not trying to tank. His talent was awful, but his results were awful. There is no way to spin this into a positive outcome. It is a bad to neutral outcome.
Team exceeded expectations in a weak Eastern conference and got up to mediocre. Pro argument is that he did so with very little talent, con argument is that he didn't really achieve much, and the talent he had simply matured (tons of young players entering their 3rd and 4th year). This is a neutral to good outcome. Best case, Atkinson was critical in the development of these players and worst case he didn't screw it up.
Team was probably around expectations given Kyrie's injury. The team that knows the most about the past three years and where on that spectrum of bad to neutral or neutral to good he fell, decided to part ways with him. Best case, the Nets just listened to their star players and had their hands forced and chose them over the coach but didn't try to protect him. Worst case, after four years of close observation, the Nets didn't actually think much of Atkinson at all and fired him because of it.
If you can't see why the negative side of all of these points is plausible and that none of us have enough information to contradict the good or bad side of this argument then I'm not sure what to say to you. I think either side is plausible and I know I don't have enough information. I'm only stating that I'm surprised how many people are taking hte optimistic side, because I don't even think the optimistic side is really even that optimistic.
That said, I also think coaches are notoriously hard to judge because so much of their ability to make an impact is based on their fit inside a given situation and not total ability.