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OT: COVID-19 thread #3

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Co-founder, Bill Montgomery, of Turning Point USA died from Covid. 

Post#461 » by The Box Office » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:47 am

That's too bad. Not wearing masks and straight up rejecting Science just to own the Libs. Yeah, they sure showed us.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/29/turning-point-usa-founder-dies-coronavirus-complications-387077

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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#462 » by moorhosj » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:03 pm

Red8911 wrote:I’m no Dr but there’s so much evidence that it has saved lives and should be given to more people if needed by their doctors.


As an admitted non-Dr, maybe don't suggest which drugs people should be prescribed? Doubly so when you can't provide any clinical trial that proves it's efficacy for this purpose.
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Herman Cain died from Covid. 

Post#463 » by The Box Office » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:53 pm

This sucks. RIP. Most likely, Cain got it from Trump's rally.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#464 » by Dresden » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:35 pm

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Red8911 wrote:I’m no Dr but there’s so much evidence that it has saved lives and should be given to more people if needed by their doctors.


As an admitted non-Dr, maybe don't suggest which drugs people should be prescribed? Doubly so when you can't provide any clinical trial that proves it's efficacy for this purpose.


It is perplexing that there are a fair number of personal anecdotes like the ones Red is describing of it helping people, while at the same time studies are showing no overall benefit, and some serious risks.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#465 » by DuckIII » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:40 pm

Dresden wrote:
moorhosj wrote:
Red8911 wrote:I’m no Dr but there’s so much evidence that it has saved lives and should be given to more people if needed by their doctors.


As an admitted non-Dr, maybe don't suggest which drugs people should be prescribed? Doubly so when you can't provide any clinical trial that proves it's efficacy for this purpose.


It is perplexing that there are a fair number of personal anecdotes like the ones Red is describing of it helping people, while at the same time studies are showing no overall benefit, and some serious risks.


It’s not perplexing. It’s either made up lies, something unsubstantiated regurgitated from social media, or coincidental because the vast majority of people with COVID 19 recover, including people who needlessly include ineffective drugs in their treatment program.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#466 » by musiqsoulchild » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:02 pm

Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#467 » by 2018C3 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:58 am

PaKii94 wrote:
Dresden wrote:And by the way, these new pop ad's really suck. You click on them once, and in a few seconds they come right back.


Yeah the ads are ridiculous. It breaks the "jump to last unread post" function


What Ads, and what browser are you using?
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#468 » by PaKii94 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:42 am

2018C3 wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
Dresden wrote:And by the way, these new pop ad's really suck. You click on them once, and in a few seconds they come right back.


Yeah the ads are ridiculous. It breaks the "jump to last unread post" function


What Ads, and what browser are you using?


Chrome on Android. It doesn't have ad blocker. It's a full page ad when I click a link for a thread
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#469 » by Ccwatercraft » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:29 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
2018C3 wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
Yeah the ads are ridiculous. It breaks the "jump to last unread post" function


What Ads, and what browser are you using?


Chrome on Android. It doesn't have ad blocker. It's a full page ad when I click a link for a thread


I have chrome, I rarely see adds. Install adblock pro or adblock plus. Free, Installs in seconds, no more bs.

Downside, many "news" websites dont like that function, but its easily disabled for specific sites in seconds if you wish, or I just still have internet explorer around for viewing sites that wont let you view content without ads.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#470 » by PaKii94 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:35 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
2018C3 wrote:
What Ads, and what browser are you using?


Chrome on Android. It doesn't have ad blocker. It's a full page ad when I click a link for a thread


I have chrome, I rarely see adds. Install adblock pro or adblock plus. Free, Installs in seconds, no more bs.

Downside, many "news" websites dont like that function, but its easily disabled for specific sites in seconds if you wish, or I just still have internet explorer around for viewing sites that wont let you view content without ads.


Yeah I have ad blocker on desktop chrome on windows. You can't install it on the phone though and that's how I usually access these forums
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#471 » by jmajew » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:45 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.


I know a lot of parents that are upset schools are going to be closed in my area. The feeling is best summed up as this. They feel their kids are going to be severely hurt by the lack of going to school. They feel they have to make a decision of one of them quitting their job in order to help home school their kids or both going to work and letting their kids fall behind. I'm blessed my wife was a teacher an only recently stopped teaching after our third child. She taught all the grades my kids are in, but if she didn't have that I don't know how I would feel.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#472 » by Dresden » Sat Aug 1, 2020 2:18 am

jmajew wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.


I know a lot of parents that are upset schools are going to be closed in my area. The feeling is best summed up as this. They feel their kids are going to be severely hurt by the lack of going to school. They feel they have to make a decision of one of them quitting their job in order to help home school their kids or both going to work and letting their kids fall behind. I'm blessed my wife was a teacher an only recently stopped teaching after our third child. She taught all the grades my kids are in, but if she didn't have that I don't know how I would feel.


I understand not wanting your kids to fall behind, but when we were in lockdown, people were clamoring to open things up again, too. And many places did that too soon, and we're seeing the results- we're worse off now than in March in some respects.

Parents should not have to chasing between going to work or taking care of their kids though. If a parent has to stay home to school the kids, or watch them, then govt's should absolutely make sure they are able to survive while doing so.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#473 » by transplant » Sat Aug 1, 2020 10:10 pm

Quick question. Has any reputable epidemiologist recommended that kids go back to their classrooms?
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#474 » by DuckIII » Sun Aug 2, 2020 3:02 am

transplant wrote:Quick question. Has any reputable epidemiologist recommended that kids go back to their classrooms?


Just this week the head of the CDC, Robert Redfield, said that children should return to in-class settings in the interests of public health.

I personally feel the CDC’s position has been heavily influenced by the White House, but regardless of my subjective view that is indeed its public position.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#475 » by transplant » Sun Aug 2, 2020 6:41 pm

DuckIII wrote:
transplant wrote:Quick question. Has any reputable epidemiologist recommended that kids go back to their classrooms?


Just this week the head of the CDC, Robert Redfield, said that children should return to in-class settings in the interests of public health.

I personally feel the CDC’s position has been heavily influenced by the White House, but regardless of my subjective view that is indeed its public position.

Thanks, Duck.

I read Redfield’s statement and have been scratching my head ever since. It’s like he did a balance sheet with the ancillary benefits of mental health care, nutrition, reporting of child abuse, etc. outweighing the likely effect of spreading the virus and therefore re-opening the schools is in the best interests of public health.

IMO, the virus is the ball and Redfield’s mind is on the wind, temperature, humidity, Keep your eye on the ball, doc.


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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#476 » by DuckIII » Mon Aug 3, 2020 4:02 am

transplant wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
transplant wrote:Quick question. Has any reputable epidemiologist recommended that kids go back to their classrooms?


Just this week the head of the CDC, Robert Redfield, said that children should return to in-class settings in the interests of public health.

I personally feel the CDC’s position has been heavily influenced by the White House, but regardless of my subjective view that is indeed its public position.

Thanks, Duck.

I read Redfield’s statement and have been scratching my head ever since. It’s like he did a balance sheet with the ancillary benefits of mental health care, nutrition, reporting of child abuse, etc. outweighing the likely effect of spreading the virus and therefore re-opening the schools is in the best interests of public health.

IMO, the virus is the ball and Redfield’s mind is on the wind, temperature, humidity, Keep your eye on the ball, doc.


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I very much agree, which is in part why to me it felt more political than scientific. Sort of like a rationale rather than a medical conclusion.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#477 » by HomoSapien » Mon Aug 3, 2020 4:53 am

jmajew wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.


I know a lot of parents that are upset schools are going to be closed in my area. The feeling is best summed up as this. They feel their kids are going to be severely hurt by the lack of going to school. They feel they have to make a decision of one of them quitting their job in order to help home school their kids or both going to work and letting their kids fall behind. I'm blessed my wife was a teacher an only recently stopped teaching after our third child. She taught all the grades my kids are in, but if she didn't have that I don't know how I would feel.


Totally get it, but everyone’s going to fall behind in life one way or the other whether it’s school, your career, getting married, or having kids. The quicker people rush to get back to normalcy the longer we are going to have to shut down/start over. Everyone just needs to hunker down and ride this out.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#478 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:01 am

HomoSapien wrote:
jmajew wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.


I know a lot of parents that are upset schools are going to be closed in my area. The feeling is best summed up as this. They feel their kids are going to be severely hurt by the lack of going to school. They feel they have to make a decision of one of them quitting their job in order to help home school their kids or both going to work and letting their kids fall behind. I'm blessed my wife was a teacher an only recently stopped teaching after our third child. She taught all the grades my kids are in, but if she didn't have that I don't know how I would feel.


Totally get it, but everyone’s going to fall behind in life one way or the other whether it’s school, your career, getting married, or having kids. The quicker people rush to get back to normalcy the longer we are going to have to shut down/start over. Everyone just needs to hunker down and ride this out.



Pretty much. It's kind of ass backwards to do anything other than wait for the vaccine
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#479 » by jmajew » Mon Aug 3, 2020 2:08 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
jmajew wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:Herman Cain dies of Covid.

Georgia schools set to reopen Friday.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.


I know a lot of parents that are upset schools are going to be closed in my area. The feeling is best summed up as this. They feel their kids are going to be severely hurt by the lack of going to school. They feel they have to make a decision of one of them quitting their job in order to help home school their kids or both going to work and letting their kids fall behind. I'm blessed my wife was a teacher an only recently stopped teaching after our third child. She taught all the grades my kids are in, but if she didn't have that I don't know how I would feel.


Totally get it, but everyone’s going to fall behind in life one way or the other whether it’s school, your career, getting married, or having kids. The quicker people rush to get back to normalcy the longer we are going to have to shut down/start over. Everyone just needs to hunker down and ride this out.


I agree. I' just wondering if their is a better way to slow the spread than shutting schools. Me personally I would much prefer we close all bars, movie theaters, bowling alleys, etc all while keeping restaurants at take out only than closing schools. Entertainment does not increase productive value for long term, but education does. Weirdly enough I live in one of the few districts in the state of Illinois that is still planning on having in person classes, the start of the year is two weeks out so I hope they don't change because it will cause a lot of stress on parents to do it so last minute.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #3 

Post#480 » by Jimako10 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 4:45 pm

Georgia had an outbreak on DAY 1 of a summer camp. I just can't see how openings schools is a good idea until there's a vaccine available. We don't even know the full extent of what this disease does to your body long after you've recovered.

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