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Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#1 » by Jvaughn » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:39 pm

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So, I know there are alot here that want the Bulls to take advantage of Lavine's contract and trade value now. I am not one of them, but if they do decide to trade him, I don't see the Nets or Knicks being good trade partners. I don't think Barrett at his peak will be nearly as good as Lavine today, and outside of that, the Knicks don't have any attractive youngsters I'd be interested in. And the Nets don't have any draft picks that would be lottery. Hopefully Bulls give Lavine and the core a chance to succeed under a competent coach first.
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Post#2 » by sco » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:42 pm

Yeah, the only thing the Knicks have of value is this year's pick. The Knicks are my 2nd fav team, and boy, they are devoid of any talent on that roster.

The Nets are a different story. They have enough young guys to possibly swing a deal, and they are likely more motivated that the Knicks given their Durant timeline.
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Post#3 » by nomorezorro » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:53 pm

it seems like the only foundation of this interest on the knicks/nets end is "the bulls have a new gm so maybe they'd be open to trading players"

zach is obviously moveable for the right price though. a suite of picks from either one of these teams could pay off long-term but on a personal level i'm not in a rush to get rid of the only consistently entertaining player on our team
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Post#4 » by nomorezorro » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:54 pm

also why would the nets want zach lol
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#5 » by cubbiefan009 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:58 pm

Yeah, no shot for the Knicks. Nets, maybe, but I don't envision a scenario in which this would happen. AK would have to be blown away by the offer.

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Post#6 » by tgmxd » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:58 pm

I know people are gonna say “sell high” like butler

This is a guy with #1 option tools who’s gotten better every year

You don’t give those guys up unless they absolutely force your hand

I’m hoping this organization learned that the hard way last time and doesn’t do it again
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Post#7 » by Little Nathan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:13 pm

tgmxd wrote:I know people are gonna say “sell high” like butler

This is a guy with #1 option tools who’s gotten better every year

You don’t give those guys up unless they absolutely force your hand

I’m hoping this organization learned that the hard way last time and doesn’t do it again

LaVine isn't close to being the player Butler is or was when we traded him. Completely different situation.
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#8 » by Little Nathan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:16 pm

nomorezorro wrote:also why would the nets want zach lol

Aren't Durant and LaVine good friends? I may be wrong, but I remember hearing that some time ago. The Nets are definitely doing whatever Durant and Irving want, so maybe that's why.
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Post#9 » by sco » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:25 pm

Hypothetically, Dinwiddie, Levert, Kuruks for Lavine works. But doubt Nets do that, and don't see how it would help us all that much (although I love Levert).

An odd thing to me when looking at it was that Lavine is the same age as Levert (who I thought was younger).
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Post#10 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:27 pm

I like Lavine. I think he's a piece to hold on to, and is on a friendly deal. Tired of the treadmill of shipping out talent and starting over.
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Post#11 » by othawhitemeat » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:40 pm

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So, I know there are alot here that want the Bulls to take advantage of Lavine's contract and trade value now. I am not one of them, but if they do decide to trade him, I don't see the Nets or Knicks being good trade partners. I don't think Barrett at his peak will be nearly as good as Lavine today, and outside of that, the Knicks don't have any attractive youngsters I'd be interested in. And the Nets don't have any draft picks that would be lottery. Hopefully Bulls give Lavine and the core a chance to succeed under a competent coach first.


I would do it for the Knicks lottery pick if in top 6. I am only saying this because while I like Lavine, we are not going to be that good while his contract is a value and to me, Coby is a similar player, but seems to be higher IQ, younger, and seems like he is a legit combo guard.
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Post#12 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:51 pm

Knicks pick and Barret?
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Post#13 » by TheFinishSniper » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:55 pm

Only reason they are interested is because of new FO. In past Zach was only available for top pick or superstar in return. Let's be real neither was possible. But they think new managment with AK is soft and is maybe willing sell for less.

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Post#14 » by Pax for Prez » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:06 pm

Zach probably was told Boylen might be coming back and he said "Trade Me".

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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#15 » by Showtime23 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:34 pm

tgmxd wrote:I know people are gonna say “sell high” like butler

This is a guy with #1 option tools who’s gotten better every year

You don’t give those guys up unless they absolutely force your hand

I’m hoping this organization learned that the hard way last time and doesn’t do it again


related to Lavine? This is even worse than Butler fans who claimed he was untouchable and look what happened to Philly, Minnesota.
if Butler got dealt, Lavine is getting dealt.
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#16 » by FriedRise » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:35 pm

Pax for Prez wrote:Zach probably was told Boylen might be coming back and he said "Trade Me".

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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#17 » by Showtime23 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:37 pm

sco wrote:Hypothetically, Dinwiddie, Levert, Kuruks for Lavine works. But doubt Nets do that, and don't see how it would help us all that much (although I love Levert).

An odd thing to me when looking at it was that Lavine is the same age as Levert (who I thought was younger).


Knicks/Nets have multiple assets for Lavine. For the Nets, I am ok with Din/Levert since the Bulls give up 1 starter for 2 and Levert is like 70% of Lavine with potential.

For Knicks, it would have to be this yrs pick plus DSJ, Knox.
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#18 » by Trm3 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:42 pm

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tgmxd wrote:I know people are gonna say “sell high” like butler

This is a guy with #1 option tools who’s gotten better every year

You don’t give those guys up unless they absolutely force your hand

I’m hoping this organization learned that the hard way last time and doesn’t do it again

LaVine isn't close to being the player Butler is or was when we traded him. Completely different situation.

I'm going to disagree.

LaVine is a much better offensive talent/scorer than Butler will ever be and he's only getting better. Butler has him defensively and Butler has slipped up on that end ever since he focused more on his offense.
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#19 » by MikeDC » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:45 pm

It's obvious why the Nets would be interested. Zach would make a nearly ideal fit as a 3rd option with Durant and KD. However, there's really nothing we should want from the Nets. Their pick won't be worth Zach by himself.

The players they can offer back aren't obviously better, or they wouldn't be open to trading them for Zach. Like, Levert is a lesser player making almost as much as what Zach makes. So that's not a very sensible trade for us. I like Dinwiddie, but he's likewise not a going who's going to change our fortunes.

Point is, the best case scenario of trading with the Nets is we trade a dime for two nickels.

The Knicks are another story. They've assuming they're in the top 3 of the draft, that could be Ball/Edwards/Wiseman/Hayes. A potential difference-making player. But not a sure thing, so I'd ask for more as well. If the pick isn't going to be Wiseman, the obvious diamond in the rough on the Knicks roster is Mitchell Robinson. If we turned Zach into Hayes and Robinson I'd be really happy.
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Re: Knicks/Nets Looking At Lavine 

Post#20 » by Jvaughn » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:48 pm

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So, I know there are alot here that want the Bulls to take advantage of Lavine's contract and trade value now. I am not one of them, but if they do decide to trade him, I don't see the Nets or Knicks being good trade partners. I don't think Barrett at his peak will be nearly as good as Lavine today, and outside of that, the Knicks don't have any attractive youngsters I'd be interested in. And the Nets don't have any draft picks that would be lottery. Hopefully Bulls give Lavine and the core a chance to succeed under a competent coach first.


I would do it for the Knicks lottery pick if in top 6. I am only saying this because while I like Lavine, we are not going to be that good while his contract is a value and to me, Coby is a similar player, but seems to be higher IQ, younger, and seems like he is a legit combo guard.


Knicks odds for lottery are barely better than ours, and this isn't really that attractive of a draft for that type of move.
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