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Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:48 pm
by prolific passer
HomoSapien wrote:Right off the bat, I think we beat the Wizards. Our lack of size and post scoring really hurt us in that series. We were basically the hottest team in the league when Curry was ruled out by the team.
As for his future, it's my belief that he would have done better here than in NY. Curry seemed to be turning the corner during his last few years in Chicago, and I think Skiles would have continued to get more out of him than most coaches. He would always be a liability on the boards and defensively, but clearly we found a system that worked. That team just had insane chemistry and played for one another. Unlike the rest of the Gordon/Hinrich/Deng teams, that one was actually pretty talented and deep and didn't always have to play "above their level" to win.
That 05 team was deep. Curry, Davis, Deng, Hinrich, And Duhon starting. Chandler, Othello, Noc, Gordon, Pargo. Only person that played over 30mpg was Kirk.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:36 pm
by fleet
Eddy Curry was never a good NBA center in any basketball way. If he never had the heart problem he would have kept killing our offense and defense and rebounding.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:43 am
by RSP83
We would've probably kept Chandler as well. But I don't see how Chandler and Curry would ever work. They're complementing each other well (Chandler rebounding and defense, Curry offense on the low post), but there's still lots of gaps as well. Chandler wouldn't get much chance to do the pick and roll to the rim action that becomes his bread and butter with CP in New Orleans, and probably his only reliable scoring move throughout his career. Curry really can't do much other thing other than use his body to give us easy points. We also see now that Curry was never go-to-guy / franchise player material mentally. So we won that trade clearly. Jo was a legit All-Star caliber big.. Curry was basically Stanley Roberts.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:50 am
by fleet
RSP83 wrote:We would've probably kept Chandler as well. But I don't see how Chandler and Curry would ever work. They're complementing each other well (Chandler rebounding and defense, Curry offense on the low post), but there's still lots of gaps as well. Chandler wouldn't get much chance to do the pick and roll to the rim action that becomes his bread and butter with CP in New Orleans, and probably his only reliable scoring move throughout his career. Curry really can't do much other thing other than use his body to give us easy points. We also see now that Curry was never go-to-guy / franchise player material mentally. So we won that trade clearly. Jo was a legit All-Star caliber big.. Curry was basically Stanley Roberts.
Don't insult Stanley like that, he probably hurt his teams less than Eddy did.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:37 am
by RSP83
fleet wrote:RSP83 wrote:We would've probably kept Chandler as well. But I don't see how Chandler and Curry would ever work. They're complementing each other well (Chandler rebounding and defense, Curry offense on the low post), but there's still lots of gaps as well. Chandler wouldn't get much chance to do the pick and roll to the rim action that becomes his bread and butter with CP in New Orleans, and probably his only reliable scoring move throughout his career. Curry really can't do much other thing other than use his body to give us easy points. We also see now that Curry was never go-to-guy / franchise player material mentally. So we won that trade clearly. Jo was a legit All-Star caliber big.. Curry was basically Stanley Roberts.
Don't insult Stanley like that, he probably hurt his teams less than Eddy did.
LOL
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:19 pm
by dpucane
Eddy's problem wasn't physical, it was mental.
He just didn't love basketball.
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Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:15 pm
by HoopsterJones
What if Eddy Curry could grab rebounds and play defense?
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:59 pm
by MrFortune3
The issue with Curry was work ethic and drive, not the heart issue.
He should have been one of the best big men in the NBA and a dominant force, he just didn't put in the work to do it.
I don't think much would have been different for him or the Bulls.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:02 pm
by fleet
HoopsterJones wrote:What if Eddy Curry could grab rebounds and play defense?
Then his value would have been on defense and the glass only. One of the epic NBA black holes on offense we have seen.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:10 pm
by Shill
What was the "Eddy Curry" stat?
Was it turnovers > assists + steals + blocks?
And on top of that, he had the bad rebounding and poor effort.
I think '04-05 was probably his ceiling even though he might've had a statistically better season in New York.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 pm
by holv03
The real question should be what if we never traded Elton Brand and Ron Artest? What type of team we could off been down the road. Also if we stayed with Crawford and built around these 3 players.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:53 pm
by HomoSapien
holv03 wrote:The real question should be what if we never traded Elton Brand and Ron Artest? What type of team we could off been down the road. Also if we stayed with Crawford and built around these 3 players.
Add in Brad Miller and that's a fairly interesting core.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:58 pm
by Shill
HomoSapien wrote:holv03 wrote:The real question should be what if we never traded Elton Brand and Ron Artest? What type of team we could off been down the road. Also if we stayed with Crawford and built around these 3 players.
Add in Brad Miller and that's a fairly interesting team.
The Bulls have been a maddening mix of ill-advised trades, injuries, and players peaking at inconvenient times.
Healthy Rose and prime Butler would've been a hell of a backcourt duo.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:37 pm
by DuckIII
Eddy Curry’s heart condition, which thankfully did not lead to an acute medical tragedy, is one of the luckier things that ever happened to John Paxson.
Re: What if... Eddy Curry never have The heart problem?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:03 am
by TheStig
HomoSapien wrote:holv03 wrote:The real question should be what if we never traded Elton Brand and Ron Artest? What type of team we could off been down the road. Also if we stayed with Crawford and built around these 3 players.
Add in Brad Miller and that's a fairly interesting core.
And actually got Tmac to sign here.