cjbulls wrote:dougthonus wrote: Again, you keep telling me I'm wrong but fail to come up with one comparable great player that's like this. At the very least it is uncommon or either of us could name several off the top of our heads. It doesn't mean it won't happen. It just means it shouldn't be viewed as likely. Lauri bouncing back to year 2 form? That seems well within the realm of reason. It may not happen, just like Michael Carter Williams and Tyreke Evans peaked super early in their careers, but its certainly very plausible, especially given the coaching.
I mean I'm not rooting against Lauri. The best outcome for Bulls fans is that all of our players turn into superstars, I wish that for all of them including Lauri. My expectation for Lauri is probably somewhere around year 2 stats.
It’s not a failure but I don’t want to expend the effort of trial and error, and then have you nitpick why a drop in PER and TS% is ok as long as their per36 points increased slightly. If Lauri progresses this year and returns to a normal trajectory, no one outside of highly engaged Bulls fans will remember he had a dip under Boylen.
But if you insist, all of these players saw a year with a significant dip in PER in their first few years.
Appreciate the effort.
Lauri dropped in per 36, per game totals, and efficiency metrics, and did so reasonably significantly across all of those. DeRozan (year 2 to year 3) is probably the most similar to Lauri those his drops weren't quite as big. The other guys generally only dropped in 1 area and by not as big of amounts (DeRozan didn't drop by as big of amounts either), but I'll agree DeRozan is a pretty good example. Oladipo isn't far off either an example either, but again, you just don't see the total drop across all areas.
Anyway, I doubt we'll get further, so here's to hoping you are right and I'm a dumbass!