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Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10

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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#121 » by Axl Rose » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:52 pm

I feel Dunn has all the physical tools to be really good. Shame he could never put it together with us.

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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#122 » by musiqsoulchild » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:06 pm

More and more it looks like a trade is in the works for an experienced PG and his gigantic contract.
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#123 » by erlim » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:30 pm

ATL just signed Rondo too.
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#124 » by sco » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:14 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:More and more it looks like a trade is in the works for an experienced PG and his gigantic contract.

you mean Russ or Wall?
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Re: QO to Valentine but not Dunn 

Post#125 » by dice » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:37 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Denzel at a QO of $4 million makes sense as salary filler in a trade.

I doubt he gets $4 million on the open market this year.

salary filler is irrelevant if you are signing a guy under the cap because you can absorb the incoming salary w/o having to match. they obviously expect him compete for minutes
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#126 » by dice » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:40 pm

FriedRise wrote:ATL playing a very wise game here. Dunn was one of the few defenders who gave Trae trouble so they have them on the same team now.

that would make sense if dunn was a starter and the bulls and hawks were competing for east supremacy or something
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Re: QO to Valentine but not Dunn. Page 3: Not to Shaq Harrison either 

Post#127 » by dice » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:41 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Side note: boy am I glad Boylen devoted consistent minutes towards developing Sato, Dunn, Shaq, Kornet and Arci last season. Looks like the decision to bench Coby and have him play the JR Smith role for 50 games was a fantastic chess move.

if boylen was playing fantastic chess he sure did get rooked
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#128 » by dice » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:54 pm

bullsnewdynasty wrote:Dunn was ultimately a massive disappointment.

People forget that he was a top 5 pick and one of the cornerstones of the Jimmy trade.

if they would have done a re-draft after his rookie year in minny, he would have dropped at least a few spots. even #5 picks are not expected to be long-term starters in the nba, so he obviously has not been a massive disappointment. and he's pretty much been what the bulls expected since acquiring him. hoped for more, obviously, but it's entirely unsurprising that they didn't get it
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#129 » by nomorezorro » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:02 am

i think the bulls expected a lot more from dunn at the time of the trade. we supposedly loved him the year of the draft and i wouldn't be surprised if we valued him the most highly of any of the pieces we got back in the jimmy trade even after his stinky rookie year
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Re: QO to Valentine but not Dunn 

Post#130 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:33 am

dice wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Denzel at a QO of $4 million makes sense as salary filler in a trade.

I doubt he gets $4 million on the open market this year.

salary filler is irrelevant if you are signing a guy under the cap because you can absorb the incoming salary w/o having to match. they obviously expect him compete for minutes

we aren't under the cap?
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Re: QO to Valentine but not Dunn 

Post#131 » by dice » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:00 am

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TheSuzerain wrote:Denzel at a QO of $4 million makes sense as salary filler in a trade.

I doubt he gets $4 million on the open market this year.

salary filler is irrelevant if you are signing a guy under the cap because you can absorb the incoming salary w/o having to match. they obviously expect him compete for minutes

we aren't under the cap?

we ARE under the cap. which means that it doesn't make sense to use cap space with the idea of trading it. we don't have to match salaries if under the cap. and the team receiving denzel would prefer not to take him but rather reduce their payroll (assuming he's worth less)
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#132 » by musiqsoulchild » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:24 am

sco wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:More and more it looks like a trade is in the works for an experienced PG and his gigantic contract.

you mean Russ or Wall?


Or Paul, Kemba.

There are lots of PG options out there with heavy contracts.
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Re: Valentine signs QO; Dunn to ATL for 2/$10 

Post#133 » by ArtMorte » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:02 am

Kinda strange to see the Hawks sign both Dunn and Rondo.

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