League Circles wrote: Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
sco wrote:NFW. What team would want him? For what role?
Best case, someone has a capable starting PG who is a good distributor/defender who also needs a starting SG.
IMO his "value" given his skill/years left on rookie deal is a late teens/early 20's pick - maybe.
Yup, I'd have him in the 20-25 range.
If the Bulls have good intel they're getting Ball (not sure it's very realistic, but let's play that out), and a good wing prospect was available, you'd have to think about pulling the trigger. Kispert, JJ, or Zaire WIlliams falls there, I like the roster makeup a bit better. Those prospects are maligned/polarizing, but that's why they're available in the 20s (before someone tells me how much they hate one of those guys) This team needs talent at the 3 IMO.
Good God, so a 21 year old picked where he was projected by most mock drafts, who have shown a lot of flashes in 2 years, drops that far????? No wonder nba teams are run so poorly. Most of them chronically overrate draft picks. I understand why he might fall, but I gotta think he'll end up being better than most players drafted outside the top 10 or so.
Your points are the key ones. It is easy and logical to assume that lotto picks retain some residual value based on their draft position and pre-NBA scouting - especially younger guys. No disagreement that Coby has shown flashes over 2 years.
That said, IMO, all pre-draft scouting and draft position should be heavily, heavily discounted by actual NBA performance. And while Coby has had decent games, if I were another GM, I would decide based on:
1) He seems to lack the ball handling and passing/vision to be considered a potentially top 15 PG.
2) He lacks the ability to finish at the rim to be considered a potentially top 15 SG.
3) He lacks the defensive ability to be a 2-way player
So that leaves me with "run of the mill" combo guard.
If it were my pick in the 20's, I would likely say "There's a good chance this guy isn't as good as Coby, but I'd rather take that chance than have a guy that's only as good as Coby is likely to be."