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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#621 » by weneeda2guard » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:25 pm

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weneeda2guard wrote:If you got a 1st for thad you can take him. Would help our package if we decide to make a run at beal or KAT etc. If not we can keep him even for next year for cheap.


at this point, I would rather keep Thad. And I’d much rather keep him than have KAT.

Thad makes everyone better (on an affordable contract) - KAT seems to do the opposite (on a max contract).

Quite honestly, this is the perfect time to nab a guy of KAT caliber. If he was once again considered the best big in the league we would have to gut the team to get him.

And I know many are down on him but I ain't crazy. KaT is still a star. You just have to put the right kind of pieces around him but him and lavine would be a hell of a duo in the east. And not many stars are going to be on the move sometimes you have to get what's available and then work it the best from there. If KAT gets on the market we def should make a play.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#622 » by HomoSapien » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:42 pm

TheHrvReport wrote:I thought it was a little odd that Donovan mentioned he has a pre-trade deadline meeting coming up with AK to discuss the status of the team. These things are usually not made public until after the fact. I don't see AK making any major trades especially since the morale of the team is high at this point with how close we are to a playoff spot. It's a tough situation, do you continue to build the young cores confidence and our record in hopes of clinching a playoff birth or do you acquire assets for the vets even though that likely means this team will bottom out (the young core has proven they can't do it on their own) ?


Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#623 » by Pax for Prez » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 pm

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TheHrvReport wrote:I thought it was a little odd that Donovan mentioned he has a pre-trade deadline meeting coming up with AK to discuss the status of the team. These things are usually not made public until after the fact. I don't see AK making any major trades especially since the morale of the team is high at this point with how close we are to a playoff spot. It's a tough situation, do you continue to build the young cores confidence and our record in hopes of clinching a playoff birth or do you acquire assets for the vets even though that likely means this team will bottom out (the young core has proven they can't do it on their own) ?


Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.


I can see the Bulls making a minor move for a backup C (like a R. Lopez, Nemanja Bjelica, or Hassan Whiteside)
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#624 » by TheHrvReport » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:41 pm

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TheHrvReport wrote:I thought it was a little odd that Donovan mentioned he has a pre-trade deadline meeting coming up with AK to discuss the status of the team. These things are usually not made public until after the fact. I don't see AK making any major trades especially since the morale of the team is high at this point with how close we are to a playoff spot. It's a tough situation, do you continue to build the young cores confidence and our record in hopes of clinching a playoff birth or do you acquire assets for the vets even though that likely means this team will bottom out (the young core has proven they can't do it on their own) ?


Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.

I think we'll be OK if we maintain a veteran presence but if we deal Thad, Otto and Sato we are going to be a sinking ship and I don't think Lavine or most fans will be happy about that given this is the most competitive we've been in years.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#625 » by HomoSapien » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 am

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TheHrvReport wrote:I thought it was a little odd that Donovan mentioned he has a pre-trade deadline meeting coming up with AK to discuss the status of the team. These things are usually not made public until after the fact. I don't see AK making any major trades especially since the morale of the team is high at this point with how close we are to a playoff spot. It's a tough situation, do you continue to build the young cores confidence and our record in hopes of clinching a playoff birth or do you acquire assets for the vets even though that likely means this team will bottom out (the young core has proven they can't do it on their own) ?


Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.

I think we'll be OK if we maintain a veteran presence but if we deal Thad, Otto and Sato we are going to be a sinking ship and I don't think Lavine or most fans will be happy about that given this is the most competitive we've been in years.


Do you consider Otto part of that group? He was initially playing pretty well, but he’s missed like 12 games and reportedly may be out till the All-Star break. I think we’d be better off taking a gamble on someone like Drummond than hoping Porter can come back and stay healthy.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#626 » by LateNight » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:00 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.

I think we'll be OK if we maintain a veteran presence but if we deal Thad, Otto and Sato we are going to be a sinking ship and I don't think Lavine or most fans will be happy about that given this is the most competitive we've been in years.


Do you consider Otto part of that group? He was initially playing pretty well, but he’s missed like 12 games and reportedly may be out till the All-Star break. I think we’d be better off taking a gamble on someone like Drummond than hoping Porter can come back and stay healthy.


Otto certainly seems like the odd man out on that list
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#627 » by Nikola » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:27 am

White, next years first, and filler to Sacramento for Haliburton, and Joseph or Barnes.

I don't like the idea of trading firsts as much as the next guy. But this team is a solid floor leader away from making the playoffs. I also just don't see who else we are going to find to play point. Sacramento might say no anyway. But I don't see how they are ever going to get the most out of both him and Fox, not to say they won't be good together.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#628 » by sco » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:26 am

How about Hutch or our 2nd rounder for Nwaba? He has added a little offense to that monster defense.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#629 » by TheHrvReport » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:41 am

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Well, we have Otto Porter and Felicio's large expiring contracts and neither is part of the team's recent success. We also have the Hutchison situation to figure out, and I think most here believe that we'll eventually have to decide between Carter and Lauri (or keep neither). Right now the momentum is mostly on the shoulders of LaVine, Young, and Temple. As long as those three remain, I think our confidence will stay intact.

I think we'll be OK if we maintain a veteran presence but if we deal Thad, Otto and Sato we are going to be a sinking ship and I don't think Lavine or most fans will be happy about that given this is the most competitive we've been in years.


Do you consider Otto part of that group? He was initially playing pretty well, but he’s missed like 12 games and reportedly may be out till the All-Star break. I think we’d be better off taking a gamble on someone like Drummond than hoping Porter can come back and stay healthy.

He certainly plays like one of the best players on the team when healthy but unfortunately never is. I think theres a small chance he can come back sooner rather than later and build up his trade value but not sure which team could potentially take on that contract.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#630 » by LateNight » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:50 am

TheHrvReport wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
TheHrvReport wrote:I think we'll be OK if we maintain a veteran presence but if we deal Thad, Otto and Sato we are going to be a sinking ship and I don't think Lavine or most fans will be happy about that given this is the most competitive we've been in years.


Do you consider Otto part of that group? He was initially playing pretty well, but he’s missed like 12 games and reportedly may be out till the All-Star break. I think we’d be better off taking a gamble on someone like Drummond than hoping Porter can come back and stay healthy.

He certainly plays like one of the best players on the team when healthy but unfortunately never is. I think theres a small chance he can come back sooner rather than later and build up his trade value but not sure which team could potentially take on that contract.


I have always assumed his value is mostly as an expiring deal. Seems like too big of a contract to help most contenders
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Post#632 » by Dez » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:42 am

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Post#633 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:53 am

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Hell no.
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Post#634 » by kodo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:30 am

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"It looks like it's impossible for him to get in a stance. He looks like a scarecrow out there," one Western Conference executive said. "You don't expect him to necessarily be great from the jump, but I've watched Porzingis a couple of times this year, and I'm not sure the guy can guard anybody."


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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#635 » by aguifs » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:41 am

Lauri is the guy out...

If you have a good offer for him, you do it.
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Post#636 » by erlim » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am

aguifs wrote:Lauri is the guy out...

If you have a good offer for him, you do it.



I don’t think anybody is going to offer us any fair return.
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Post#637 » by TheFinishSniper » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:16 am

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aguifs wrote:Lauri is the guy out...

If you have a good offer for him, you do it.



I don’t think anybody is going to offer us any fair return.

This. I dont think also that anybody is offering anything for Lauri, WCJ or Coby worthwhile. Our prospects arent really searched merchandise. I think still best assets we have are our picks to get something good in return.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#639 » by sco » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:42 pm

What about Sato/Otto/Felicio/Hutch and 2 2nd rounders for Wall/Nwaba?

Would help their tank, hugely free up salary for them and give them a some young guys to look at. Wall and Nwaba could be meaningful adds if we have playoff ambitions.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#640 » by chefo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:49 pm

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I'd send WCJ, Otto and a 1st or two and not think twice. They're going easy on him with the minutes and dude just came back... and he's already at 25 & 10 per 36, with a 58% TS%, just getting his wind back. Before he went down in the bubble, he was absolutely crushing it, AD-style.

When he gets his rhythm back, dude can easily remain a 21 & 8 player on O, but more importantly when he's healthy, he changes a lot of shots on D. Yeah, I read the article his legs are now so stiff he can't guard a chair any more. He'll get better--he didn't have a career ending injury. Our drop coverage may actually work with a long and fairly mobile 7'3 manning the middle.

Replacing WCJ with an anchor with legit size who can also give you 25 given night AND stretches the floor when necessary? Sure, I'll take that.

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