CobyWhite0 wrote: GoBlue72391 wrote:
Theis .615 TS%, 15.2 PER
Lauri .614 TS%, 15.1 PER
Theis .622 TS%, 16.6 PER
Lauri .564 TS%, 15.6 PER
I think most teams will go with the more efficient scorer when he's also the better defensive rebounder, defender and rim runner.
You know that's a misleading and bogus comparison, so why even make it? Is your agenda that important to you?
Misleading and bogus? No, it's actually 100% true. It's their actual, real, factual shooting percentages.
"Theis who can't shoot from the outside." - Now THAT'S misleading and bogus. It's such a bold faced lie, it almost borders on trolling.
Call me crazy, but I think the best way to compare shooters is by their shooting percentages.
I'm not sure how Lauri's fans are going to spin this, but Theis is literally a better shooter from EVERYWHERE on the floor but behind the arc. FG% by distanceThis season
0-3 Lauri .689, Theis .769
3-10 Lauri .534, Theis .582
10-16 Lauri .231, Theis .569
16-3P Lauri .000, Theis .588
3P Lauri .394
, Theis .316Career
0-3 Lauri .657, Theis .746
3-10 Lauri .409, Theis .464
10-16 Lauri .326, Theis .512
16-3P Lauri .342, Theis .457
3P Lauri .363
, Theis .333
So please explain to me how Lauri is a better shooter than Theis "who can't shoot from the outside"?
Lauri is a better 3pt shooter than Theis, AND THAT IS ALL. Theis is so good shooting from everywhere else that he has the higher true shooting percentage. That's why Theis scores more efficiently than Lauri.
I'm aware of that, but that doesn't make it any less misleading and bogus. You do realize something can be factually true while also being misleading, right? Do you need me to explain to you why it's misleading? Because I will, but I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt.
You're either severely lacking in basketball common sense, which I doubt, or you have a very obvious agenda and you're being intentionally obtuse to prop up your bogus argument that Theis is the superior scorer. I've seen you make a few other cherry picked comparisons lacking any context, so maybe this is just your thing.
Comparing players strictly by their shooting percentages is surface level analysis and lacks any kind of context. Tony Snell is having a 50/50/100 season, so he is literally a better shooter than Zach from EVERYWHERE on the floor. By your logic, that's a valid comparison.
There's no spin needed, you're just intentionally leaving out the different types of shots Lauri takes that Theis doesn't and ignoring the different degrees of difficulty of both players' shots.
86% of Theis' shots inside the arc are assisted this season and that number is 80% for his career. His average shot distance this season is 12.9 feet and 10.6 for his career. We don't run any plays for him and defenses don't worry about him or game plan against him. He's a rim running, garbage man, hustle player who gets opportunistic buckets consisting primarily of dunks off dumpoffs, lobs, put backs, etc. And yeah, he knocks down the occasional mid and 3, strictly of the spot up catch and shoot variety.
71% of Lauri's shots inside the arc are assisted this season and that number is 59% for his career. His average shot distance is 15.9 feet this season and 15.3 for his career. Prior to the trade we ran plays for Lauri, defenses had to be aware of him, and game plan and make adjustments to limit the quality of his looks. He was literally our 2nd option until not too long ago while Theis is not an offensive option at all, he's purely an opportunistic scorer.
Sure Lauri shoots a lot of spot up catch and shoot 3s, especially now that he's been marginalized after the trade, but he's also capable of shooting 3s after running off screens, he puts the ball on the floor and drives to the basket, he handles the ball on the break for drives, etc. Theis is not capable of shooting those kinds of shots with any kind of consistency, while Lauri is capable of shooting all the types of shots Theis takes.
Lauri's shot profile is more diverse and difficult than Theis'. This is relative only in comparison to a garbage man like Theis and is obviously not true in comparison to someone like Zach. Of course Theis' percentages are higher than Lauri's; he gets easier shots. Duh. He's supposed to have better percentages. If anything, the fact that their percentages are so close despite the difference in the degree of difficulty isn't something to brag about.
Claiming Theis is a better player than Lauri is a valid argument, but claiming he's a better scorer/shooter is not.
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