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With the Wiz winning tonight and our remaining schedule, that'll just about do it.

We should just try and tank now. It's over.

Show the white flag, AKME and Billy.

#betterwithoutzach

I’m not sure Vuc would agree.

I wish had not taken the time watch that second half.

Well if we start tanking now we either give Orlando a 7th or we get a top four, that seems like the best we'll do. I hate the idea of tanking

Can’t even tank really anymore, worst they could do is 7th.

Having a poor defensive center is going to be such an uphill battle from a roster standpoint, I don’t know what AK was thinking. All the Bulls need is an elite help defender at the power forward spot and someone who still has a good offense. There are like 5 of those guys on the planet.

Crazy position we are in as a franchise. I love the pic protection, let the ping pong balls drop!

Bulls619sd wrote:Well if we start tanking now we either give Orlando a 7th or we get a top four, that seems like the best we'll do. I hate the idea of tanking

I hate this circunstance that we have to tank when there's strong possibility that we happen to give away our 7th-10th pick to the Magic.

AK was so delusional that he pushed the win-now button when the main roster was built very poorly by GarPax. The Bulls still need to get reliable ball-handlers while every single NBA teams wants to get them.

There are quite many teams that have more cap space or better winning record than the Bulls so I wonder how AK manage to persuade them to come to the Bulls.

Give up the tanking nonsense. We're not starting Lauri again. The Bulls really can't beat teams with shot blocking (which, IMO, is mainly about Coby just being unable to score on shot blockers). The Knicks are a very good team. Randle was mana from heaven for them.

Theis used up a season's worth of mojo last game.

My Lauri joke aside...I don't mind him at SF. He did a better job on Barrett than he did on Randle.

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Can’t even tank really anymore, worst they could do is 7th.

Having a poor defensive center is going to be such an uphill battle from a roster standpoint, I don’t know what AK was thinking. All the Bulls need is an elite help defender at the power forward spot and someone who still has a good offense. There are like 5 of those guys on the planet.

Yay again let’s criticize the only player worth a damn tonight. If our players were not trash on offense that was a winnable game.

Good win for Thibs and gang.

On with the next....

Just_Bullz wrote:Good win for Thibs and gang.

On with the next....

The next loss.

We have a super high chance of losing the next 5 games vs. Bucks, Hawks, Sixers, Hornets, and Celtics.

I know we beat Hornets and Celtics recently, but they're looking for blood against us. On May 9th vs. Pistons is where LaVine should return. Even without LaVine, we should beat Pistons easily.

- Coby White should not be yelling at established vets such as Vuc. Even when Vuc was late on something, Coby has absolutely no business talking down to him when Coby himself was terrible, yet again, on defense tonight. Stubborn kid. I like his 9 assists tonight though. Coby White hilariously couldn't get to the free throw line either. Maybe that pop on Coby's mouth was warranted to shut the kid up.

- Patrick Williams still performing like a bust.

- Julius Randle is having a superb year. He's also a f*ckin beast defensively if y'all weren't following him. He's currently number 2 in the NBA in defensive win shares behind Rudy Gobert. Randle is also number 12 in defensive rating showing that he's better than anyone we currently have by 1000s of miles. Knicks are blessed to have Randle since he's currently out performing the guy the Knicks truly wanted and that is Zion.

WindyCityBorn wrote:

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Can’t even tank really anymore, worst they could do is 7th.

Having a poor defensive center is going to be such an uphill battle from a roster standpoint, I don’t know what AK was thinking. All the Bulls need is an elite help defender at the power forward spot and someone who still has a good offense. There are like 5 of those guys on the planet.

Yay again let’s criticize the only player worth a damn tonight. If our players were not trash on offense that was a winnable game.

No one on this team is above criticism.

For the most part, they’ve all sucked. I’ve simply lost the energy to complain about the others. That’s been done over and over again. Vooch is a new and interesting problem for this team.

The Box Office wrote:We have a super high chance of losing the next 5 games vs. Bucks, Hawks, Sixers, Hornets, and Celtics.

I know we beat Hornets and Celtics recently, but they're looking for blood against us. On May 9th vs. Pistons is where LaVine should return. Even without LaVine, we should beat Pistons easily.

- Coby White should not be yelling at established vets such as Vuc. Even when Vuc was late on something, Coby has absolutely no business talking down to him when Coby himself was terrible, yet again, on defense tonight. Stubborn kid. I like his 9 assists tonight though. Coby White hilariously couldn't get to the free throw line either. Maybe that pop on Coby's mouth was warranted to shut the kid up.

- Patrick Williams still performing like a bust.

- Julius Randle is having a superb year. He's also a f*ckin beast defensively if y'all weren't following him. He's currently number 2 in the NBA in defensive win shares behind Rudy Gobert. Randle is also number 12 in defensive rating showing that he's better than anyone we currently have by 1000s of miles. Knicks are blessed to have Randle since he's currently out performing the guy the Knicks truly wanted and that is Zion.

Well he is like 5 years older than Zion. Pretty sure the Knicks would trade Randle for Zion tonight, but he has been a beast.

I feel like the tide has been slowly running out, to reveal a strange collection of players, and a shocking amount of barnacles.

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:

WindyCityBorn wrote:

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Can’t even tank really anymore, worst they could do is 7th.

Having a poor defensive center is going to be such an uphill battle from a roster standpoint, I don’t know what AK was thinking. All the Bulls need is an elite help defender at the power forward spot and someone who still has a good offense. There are like 5 of those guys on the planet.

Yay again let’s criticize the only player worth a damn tonight. If our players were not trash on offense that was a winnable game.

No one on this team is above criticism.

For the most part, they’ve all sucked. I’ve simply lost the energy to complain about the others. That’s been done over and over again. Vooch is a new and interesting problem for this team.

I never said he was above criticism. It just annoying to see the two guys that are trying to carry a bunch of bums(first Zach now Vuc) taking most of the blame.

WindyCityBorn wrote:

The Box Office wrote:We have a super high chance of losing the next 5 games vs. Bucks, Hawks, Sixers, Hornets, and Celtics.

I know we beat Hornets and Celtics recently, but they're looking for blood against us. On May 9th vs. Pistons is where LaVine should return. Even without LaVine, we should beat Pistons easily.

- Coby White should not be yelling at established vets such as Vuc. Even when Vuc was late on something, Coby has absolutely no business talking down to him when Coby himself was terrible, yet again, on defense tonight. Stubborn kid. I like his 9 assists tonight though. Coby White hilariously couldn't get to the free throw line either. Maybe that pop on Coby's mouth was warranted to shut the kid up.

- Patrick Williams still performing like a bust.

- Julius Randle is having a superb year. He's also a f*ckin beast defensively if y'all weren't following him. He's currently number 2 in the NBA in defensive win shares behind Rudy Gobert. Randle is also number 12 in defensive rating showing that he's better than anyone we currently have by 1000s of miles. Knicks are blessed to have Randle since he's currently out performing the guy the Knicks truly wanted and that is Zion.

Well he is like 5 years older than Zion. Pretty sure the Knicks would trade Randle for Zion tonight, but he has been a beast.

I disagree. Zion is nowhere near elite defensively right now. I'm not even sure Zion reaches Julius Randle's current defensive output ever in his career. Because I'm not confident in Zion's knees.

The Box Office wrote:

WindyCityBorn wrote:

The Box Office wrote:We have a super high chance of losing the next 5 games vs. Bucks, Hawks, Sixers, Hornets, and Celtics.

I know we beat Hornets and Celtics recently, but they're looking for blood against us. On May 9th vs. Pistons is where LaVine should return. Even without LaVine, we should beat Pistons easily.

- Coby White should not be yelling at established vets such as Vuc. Even when Vuc was late on something, Coby has absolutely no business talking down to him when Coby himself was terrible, yet again, on defense tonight. Stubborn kid. I like his 9 assists tonight though. Coby White hilariously couldn't get to the free throw line either. Maybe that pop on Coby's mouth was warranted to shut the kid up.

- Patrick Williams still performing like a bust.

- Julius Randle is having a superb year. He's also a f*ckin beast defensively if y'all weren't following him. He's currently number 2 in the NBA in defensive win shares behind Rudy Gobert. Randle is also number 12 in defensive rating showing that he's better than anyone we currently have by 1000s of miles. Knicks are blessed to have Randle since he's currently out performing the guy the Knicks truly wanted and that is Zion.

Well he is like 5 years older than Zion. Pretty sure the Knicks would trade Randle for Zion tonight, but he has been a beast.

I disagree. Zion is nowhere near elite defensively right now. I'm not even sure Zion reaches Julius Randle's current defensive output ever in his career. Because I'm not confident in Zion's knees.

It took Randle like 5 years to figure it out. Zion is already a star. If he stays healthy he will he better. Probably significantly better. Zion is a generational talent. Randle is not.

So the Bulls are a better team without Lavine right?

WindyCityBorn wrote:

The Box Office wrote:

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Well he is like 5 years older than Zion. Pretty sure the Knicks would trade Randle for Zion tonight, but he has been a beast.

I disagree. Zion is nowhere near elite defensively right now. I'm not even sure Zion reaches Julius Randle's current defensive output ever in his career. Because I'm not confident in Zion's knees.

It took Randle like 5 years to figure it out. Zion is already a star. If he stays healthy he will he better. Probably significantly better.

I wouldn't trade for Randle for Zion. Randle is having a superstar year himself. I think you're speaking for yourself, correct? YOU would trade Randle for Zion. I don't care about 5 years from now. I don't care about the future. It's all about "right now." Right now, Randle is the better player and his stats and advanced metrics beat all over Zion.

Since Zion is a superstar, and I agree that Zion is, how come his team is currently ranked 11th in the West? They're out of the playoffs.