CobyWhite0 wrote: PaKii94 wrote:
You're not serious, are you?
I don't even know how to reply to this. I am obviously being punk'd.
You cannot possibly comment on offensive efficiency without seeing what the Offensive EFFICIENCY rating is.
It's the same, our offense has been EXACTLY as efficient since the trade as it was before the trade.
So you're saying that when measuring Offensive Efficiency, we should ignore the one and only stat that measures how efficient an offense is?
I think you were the one who mentioned how big of a factor TOs were playing in damping our offense pre trade. If that was improved we would have had a better Orating then than we do now.
100% agreed, the main thing keeping our offense down pre-trade was turnovers. No doubt about it.
I was only pointing out that our offense has been exactly as efficient post-trade as it was pre-trade, even though it was claimed that our offense is less efficient post-trade. So saying our offense is less efficient post-trade is a 100% falsehood, plain and simple.
Holy cow, man. You rely wayyy too much on individual stats to make a conclusion for you. I don't give a rat's ass what the offensive rating says, anyone with two eyes and a basic understanding of basketball can see that our offense is noticeably worse after the trade deadline. Actually, our offensive rating pre and post trade deadline is NOT "exactly the same." Pre-trade deadline it was 110.6 and post-trade deadline it's 109.9. Sure, that's not a big difference, but it's also not "exactly the same" as you've claimed multiple times. This is almost as ridiculous as you saying Theis is a better scorer than Lauri because they have the same TS% while completely ignoring the different types of shots they take and the different roles they play.
Stats are very helpful and serve a purpose, but they're not the be-all, end-all. There's more to the game than just stats. Hell, it ain't even that. In my previous discussions with you, you simply cherry picked the stats that are important to you while completely brushing off all stats I brought up in my retort. This is the same thing. You can't just pick and choose certain stats just because they support your viewpoint while discounting the eye test and all other stats that go against your view point.
If you insist on keeping it 100% all about stats, then take a look at this:
PPG pre-trade deadline: 113 on 88.9 FGA per game
PPG post-trade deadline: 106.9 on 87.4 FGA per game
FG% pre: 47.9%
FG% post: 47.7%
3FG% pre: 37.6%
3FG% post: 34.5%
FTA pre: 18.8
FTA post: 15.6
FT% pre: 80.4%
FT% post: 78.1%
APG pre: 26.1
APG post: 28.6
TOPG pre: 16
TOPG post: 14.3
Point differential pre: -0.6
Point differential post: -3.3
Offensive rating pre: 110.6
Offensive rating post: 109.9
Defensive rating pre: 111.6
Defensive rating post: 113.3
Net rating pre: -1.0
Net rating post: -3.5
TS% pre: 58.2%
TS% post: 56.7%
PACE pre: 101
Pace post: 97.2
Despite your claims, our offense was better before the trade deadline. It is less efficient now than it was before. Actually, let me rephrase that: Our team
was better before the trade deadline. In almost every category. Both the stats and they eye test back that up. If you don't like that, well, I'm sure you'll find some stat to negate all the other stats.