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Dresden wrote:Not only did the Bears nail their first two picks, but they seem to have found very good value in their later picks as well. That corner out of Oregon would have gone much higher in the draft had he not opted out this year due to Covid, so he could be a key player. The RB from VT is getting rave reviews, and the slot receiver also has a lot of analysts wondering why he fell that far in the draft. The only two I have not heard a lot of great things about are the lineman they took in the 5th, and the DT they took in the 7th. But I expect at least one them to make the team as well. So from top to bottom, this draft, on paper, looks like an absolute home run for the Bears.

MalagaBulls wrote:

dougthonus wrote:

patryk7754 wrote:Leno has been cut. At the least this gets us under the cap with the ability to keep hicks. Hopefully some more moves are made

NFL cap seems difficult for me to understand as I'm not an expert in it, but sure feels like there isn't much room to do anything else.

It´s actually easier than the NBA CAP Doug. You can now extend both Hicks (2 year deal with an xtra voidable to extend the amount of years a signing bonus is paid over) and ARob. His CAP hit is 17.8M. With a new contract of say 5/90M you pay him a guaranteed 2M salary for 2021 and a 30M signing bonus which is paid upfront.
Therefore you spread the bonus over 5 year to 6M per. So his 2021 CAP hit is reduced by nearly 10M (9.8M) and that now covers the incoming rookie class salary scale and also gives you about 2-3M wiggle room.
You can cut Graham and get another 7M. Re-doing Hicks contract will net you another 5-6M so you can claw back another 22-23M just from those last 3. And you can cut other vets post June 1 and save more. But with the CAP set to rise to hopefully 205-210M in 2022 (from 182.5M) methinks you will have plenty of room to manuveur.

Friend_Of_Haley wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:wow i came into the bears thread and found a whole page on race relations

Haha. Same. Not going to go back and figure out how we got here.

To try and get it back to the Bears. I have NEVER felt this good about a Bears pick or even a whole draft. This is how I wanted to feel about Watson in 2017, but they selected Trubisky. All QBs are going to carry a high bust rate, but I feel great avout Fields and they are damn lucky he dropped to 11. Big tip of the cap for Pace for going up to get him.

RedBulls23 wrote:Fields is the best QB already. I don't think that's the argument. I think it maybe comes down to the offensive line? Do you see how the line looks first, and then play him accordingly?

dougthonus wrote:

RedBulls23 wrote:Fields is the best QB already. I don't think that's the argument. I think it maybe comes down to the offensive line? Do you see how the line looks first, and then play him accordingly?

I don't know that Fields is the best QB out of the gate. You have two veterans that were great college QBs that have honed their craft for a decade too. I think it's pretty unlikely that Fields is the best immediately out of the gate actually. It's more that you know guys learn the most by doing, and the vast majority of NFL learning comes in the first two years. I don't think guys learn a whole lot on the sidelines personally.

chicagoballer wrote:

dougthonus wrote:

RedBulls23 wrote:Fields is the best QB already. I don't think that's the argument. I think it maybe comes down to the offensive line? Do you see how the line looks first, and then play him accordingly?

I don't know that Fields is the best QB out of the gate. You have two veterans that were great college QBs that have honed their craft for a decade too. I think it's pretty unlikely that Fields is the best immediately out of the gate actually. It's more that you know guys learn the most by doing, and the vast majority of NFL learning comes in the first two years. I don't think guys learn a whole lot on the sidelines personally.

agreed. I would say transition him to starting QB around game 6-7. Unless we are near undefeated with Dalton at the helm. In which case it will be hard to change. The team is Justin's eventually, but there is no learning like on the field. and there are only 16 games a season assuming no playoffs

CobyWhite0 wrote:According to this article, QBs nowadays are much better off being "thrown to the wolves" as rookies

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2018/8/6/17655388/how-rookie-year-playing-time-impacts-a-qbs-future-chances-of-success-new-york-jets-sam-darnold

TheSuzerain wrote:

CobyWhite0 wrote:According to this article, QBs nowadays are much better off being "thrown to the wolves" as rookies

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2018/8/6/17655388/how-rookie-year-playing-time-impacts-a-qbs-future-chances-of-success-new-york-jets-sam-darnold

That's a case of correlation and not causation.

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WindyCityBorn wrote:

dice wrote:small town mormon disney star uncomfortable with ja'marr chase flashing gang sign:

https://i.imgur.com/g5tslL8.mp4

Visibly so. He is in for a culture shock. And Chase is an idiot for doing that.

I'm a huge anti-cult type person because of my personal history, but in fairness to that kid, it is a little uncomfortable of a situation. His reaction was understood.

dice wrote:

chicagoballer wrote:

dougthonus wrote:
I don't know that Fields is the best QB out of the gate. You have two veterans that were great college QBs that have honed their craft for a decade too. I think it's pretty unlikely that Fields is the best immediately out of the gate actually. It's more that you know guys learn the most by doing, and the vast majority of NFL learning comes in the first two years. I don't think guys learn a whole lot on the sidelines personally.

agreed. I would say transition him to starting QB around game 6-7. Unless we are near undefeated with Dalton at the helm. In which case it will be hard to change. The team is Justin's eventually, but there is no learning like on the field. and there are only 16 games a season assuming no playoffs

if the bears are 4-2 w/ dalton playing well you would still hand the reigns to fields?

i said it earlier in the thread, but i think that the single most likely of countless scenarios is fields getting the ball in week 8 with the team sitting at 3-4. then he won't be expected to rally them to the playoffs, but if he does his career gets kickstarted in a big way

second most likely i think is fields starting in week 6 w/ team record 2-3. but i'm looking forward to the schedule coming out so that it gets a bit easier to speculate...

dice wrote:

chicagoballer wrote:

dougthonus wrote:
I don't know that Fields is the best QB out of the gate. You have two veterans that were great college QBs that have honed their craft for a decade too. I think it's pretty unlikely that Fields is the best immediately out of the gate actually. It's more that you know guys learn the most by doing, and the vast majority of NFL learning comes in the first two years. I don't think guys learn a whole lot on the sidelines personally.

agreed. I would say transition him to starting QB around game 6-7. Unless we are near undefeated with Dalton at the helm. In which case it will be hard to change. The team is Justin's eventually, but there is no learning like on the field. and there are only 16 games a season assuming no playoffs

if the bears are 4-2 w/ dalton playing well you would still hand the reigns to fields?

i said it earlier in the thread, but i think that the single most likely of countless scenarios is fields getting the ball in week 8 with the team sitting at 3-4. then he won't be expected to rally them to the playoffs, but if he does his career gets kickstarted in a big way

second most likely i think is fields starting in week 6 w/ team record 2-3. but i'm looking forward to the schedule coming out so that it gets a bit easier to speculate...