TheJordanRule wrote:CobyWhite0 wrote:TheJordanRule wrote:
We'd have to do better than #4 to get a shot at Cade. He's the consensus #1 pick. He's not perfect, but he IS a 6 ft 8 monster at PG. Lucking into Cade would represent a dramatic shift in our fortunes. We would actually have a future if it happens.
Where did he say, infer, or imply that we could get Cade at #4??
He gave a hypothetical that we get a top-4 pick, and proceeded to list every player in the consensus top-4, in the consensus order in which they are expected to be drafted.
To be clear, Dan Z NEVER suggested we could get Cade at #4. And although he DIDN'T, the casual understatement of, "Let's say we get Cade, and he has a good rookie season..." rubbed me the wrong way. Cade is a franchise changing talent. The other guys don't really come close right now. It's like saying, "Let's say your grandfather gives you 10 million dollars. Well, then you probably won't have to worry about your finances for the next month" Okay, that's true, but WHAT?! Cade is an absolute beast. Whereas giving away picks #2-4 + Pat to grab Ben Simmons would be a pipedream of the highest order, given what a crapshoot the draft is, what little Pat has accomplished, and how incredibly valuable Simmons is to not just the Sixers but around the league. But we're turning that down because... ???
I agree that Cade is a great prospect, but you make is sound as though he'll be an all-star from day 1. The last time a number 1 overall pick was an all-star in his rookie year was Blake Griffin (2011) and he missed the first year of his career due to injury.
Before that it was Yao Ming in 2003. Its rare.
I don't think we can get Cade at #4 and was going off of Pipfan suggesting that we'd need a pick in the top four to get Simmons (he didn't say a specific pick). I wouldn't trade Cade or Suggs or Mobley or Green plus Williams for Simmons.