HomoSapien wrote: dougthonus wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:They had five returning players, and all five had career seasons. OKC is looking to rebuild, their goals are theoretically different than ours if we plan on keeping Zach long-term.
Sure, but it avoids the question. CP3's value is on the court. Those who think his off court or leadership value is worth 30 million per year if his on court value isn't worth that are simply mistaken
Has anyone said that?
When people use the statement that even if he declines, he'll still provide leadership so it is okay, they are implying this.
Although we are trending in the right direction, I still think we need a few moves to broadly change our image into a more attractive franchise and destination. I think Paul could do that. There's a good chance his next team is his last one, and he would be the most influential player we've had since Jordan. I do think that could help us. I don't see CP3 retiring and returning to the Clippers or Pelicans, but he could remain a statesman for our team. How much is that worth, impossible to say.
I think probably very little quite frankly. Especially if he doesn't have a good experience for whatever reason (which often seems pretty common for stars bouncing around the league at the end of their career).
I also think that we'd be in a better position after he retired than we are today, because he'd likely further help elevate Zach's standing and rank in the league, which would make us a more desirable landing spot in three years. Does that progression naturally happen? Probably to an extent, but Paul can help accelerate it.
Yeah, I just don't think things like this are reasonable or likely.
Like you said, we've already chosen our lane with the Vuc trade. Lonzo, Lowry, and Conley would all be good signings but CP3 gives the best chance of moving the needle IMO, even if it's not a championship.
Yeah, as I said, I'm okay with Paul, I know I'm being a bit nitpicky, IMO, he is worth it if he plays well. All these other things evaporate if he doesn't play well. You are gambling that he will continue to play well. If you think you can get value from him even if he doesn't play well then I think you're chasing the wrong thing.
I guess the long short of it is that I think a lot of the supplemental stuff people are saying is fluff. Paul's a great player still, and he'd be worth having if he can remain one for at least two more seasons, and there's reason to be hopeful that can happen (even if I'd bet against it). If he doesn't remain a great player though, this would end up as a disaster.