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PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#1 » by Shill » Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:57 am

The multiple embarrassing blowouts on national television are deeply concerning.

Hopefully LaVine's knee is okay.

Back to the drawing board.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#2 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:58 am

Very rough stretch, gotta fight through it.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#3 » by ch434355 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:00 am

Is DDR even trying since the buzzer beaters?

The next 4 games are going to tough to watch.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#4 » by kdapiton » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:00 am

Weather the storm. Pray Lavine's isn't gone for the season. Keep our heads above water and somehow end up with ongoing home court advantage (at least 4th) for the playoffs. Have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#5 » by BullChit » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:01 am

Better to slump now that peak at the tail end of the season heading into the playoffs...

The main concern coming out of this game is Zach obviously.

We need to get healthy and refocus.

I agree with a post in the GT about NBA officiating going back to the way it has been as opposed to the beginning of the season which is a detriment to the Bulls style of defence and to the sport overall.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#6 » by BloodyQ » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:02 am

Like Stacey King said "Big time players show up for big time games"

Well....no one has shown up for these past 2 games. Now this game was a wash the minute Lavine went down, but the Nets game definitely could have competed better.

I mean, all playoff games are going to be nationally televised, so they better figure it out quick. I wouldn't be surprised if they go on a losing streak now that Lavine is gonna be out for a while. Demar is getting pushed to the limit.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#7 » by Jo Jo English » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:02 am

Rough past 24 hours. Let's hope Zach isn't hurt bad and is able to return soon, along with some other key guys.

All that said, the Bulls just completely rolled over. These guys have to have some pride and regroup and come out to compete tomorrow night, regardless of who is available.
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Post#8 » by BloodyQ » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:03 am

ch434355 wrote:Is DDR even trying since the buzzer beaters?

The next 4 games are going to tough to watch.


This was the Derozan that people thought we were gonna get. The haters are probably rejoicing right now.
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Post#9 » by kdapiton » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:03 am

Also I know we have to run things through Vuc more but he doesn't do a particularly good job at getting the ball out when he draws attention. Man, if he had half of Joakim's passing ability it'd be amazing.

Speaking of Jo I'd take him as an end of the bench guy who won't even play, just as an emotional crutch.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#10 » by coldfish » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:05 am

Its a long season. A bad stretch is going to happen.

The Bulls need:
1. To make sure Zach is healthy. Without Zach, everything kind of falls apart. Lonzo has to run the offense a lot, Coby goes up the offensive tier, etc. It just . . . . doesn't . . . work.

2. Get some people healthy. Caruso, DJJ, Javonte to start and hopefully Pat.

3. Figure out how to play defense when the refs call the slapping that Chicago was getting away with early in the year.

Realistically, I hope they can play 0.500 basketball for the next month or so and get everyone healthy for a stretch run.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#11 » by weneeda2guard » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:07 am

Got to get our defensive players back

Guys are too laid back and need to get some grit and fire in them

Vucevic was embarrassingly bad to begin the game especially on the boards

This is really bad. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. We have to get adjusted to the idea we are going to lose the 1st seed , but

From early looks lavine didn't severely hurt himself so let's hope for a 4-6 week kind of thing

Reinforcements are coming. Caruso is the defensive anchor and will do wonders for our defense. Green should be back and Derrick Jones Jr will be back in a few weeks. And finally Patrick Williams is on his way back as well.

So we will fall a bit but we can climb back up.

One major issue though is we got the big spotlight national TV games and I'm sorry lavine and derozan didn't seem to step up. That was concerning. This can of course change by the playoffs. But this is demoralizing so we really are about to see what these guys are made of.
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Post#12 » by BloodyQ » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:11 am

weneeda2guard wrote:
This is really bad. But there is light at the end of the tunnel.


Light at the end of the tunnel is that Vuc will no longer be on the team next year....AKME isn't going to put up with that performance.
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Post#13 » by HINrichPolice » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:13 am

I can accept losing to top teams, even by a good margin if it's a result of some bad shooting and players being out.

But what concerns me is that Vucevic needed to step up, and he gave us nothing. He just plays with such little mental toughness. When things aren't going well, he plays WORSE. And we all know he doesn't have quickness to afford mistakes on defense, but it's the mental mistakes that really bothers me. Get this dude off my team.

Lastly, why does Bill actively choose to let our team drown when we clearly are making one mental mistake after another? He literally just LET'S OUR TEAM DROWN. No timeout. Just let's them suffer. There's no sense for it.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#14 » by coldfish » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:16 am

HINrichPolice wrote:I can accept losing to top teams, even by a good margin if it's a result of some bad shooting and players being out.

But what concerns me is that Vucevic needed to step up, and he gave us nothing. He just plays with such little mental toughness. When things aren't going well, he plays WORSE. And we all know he doesn't have quickness to afford mistakes on defense, but it's the mental mistakes that really bothers me. Get this dude off my team.

Lastly, why does Bill actively choose to let our team drown when we clearly are making one mental mistake after another? He literally just LET'S OUR TEAM DROWN. No timeout. Just let's them suffer. There's no sense for it.


Billy had been taking quick timeouts when the team struggles to start games. Quite frankly, the timeouts weren't accomplishing much. I kind of thing he is hanging them out to dry a little. He has been rather vocal about the defensive issues and he is getting ignored by a few players.
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Post#15 » by ch434355 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:17 am

Vuc isn't a long-term part of this team, that is clear at this point
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Post#16 » by HINrichPolice » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:20 am

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HINrichPolice wrote:I can accept losing to top teams, even by a good margin if it's a result of some bad shooting and players being out.

But what concerns me is that Vucevic needed to step up, and he gave us nothing. He just plays with such little mental toughness. When things aren't going well, he plays WORSE. And we all know he doesn't have quickness to afford mistakes on defense, but it's the mental mistakes that really bothers me. Get this dude off my team.

Lastly, why does Bill actively choose to let our team drown when we clearly are making one mental mistake after another? He literally just LET'S OUR TEAM DROWN. No timeout. Just let's them suffer. There's no sense for it.


Billy had been taking quick timeouts when the team struggles to start games. Quite frankly, the timeouts weren't accomplishing much. I kind of thing he is hanging them out to dry a little. He has been rather vocal about the defensive issues and he is getting ignored by a few players.


That's the only thing I can think of - to let the embarrassment be the teacher if they aren't listening to him. But to me, that's like a last resort move, and if that doesn't work, then we have bigger problems.
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#17 » by Devinpo » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:22 am

It’s messed up but Zach acl is torn most likely . Why do we have this curse
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Post#18 » by umfan83 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:25 am

Devinpo wrote:It’s messed up but Zach acl is torn most likely . Why do we have this curse


Lol what makes you say that?
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Re: PG: Not contenders right now 

Post#19 » by ch434355 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:25 am

Devinpo wrote:It’s messed up but Zach acl is torn most likely . Why do we have this curse


The chances of it being a torn ACL after everything they've said so far are slim to none, stop feeling self-pity
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Post#20 » by pduh01 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:31 am

Devinpo wrote:It’s messed up but Zach acl is torn most likely . Why do we have this curse



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