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Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:58 am
by dougthonus
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:02 pm
by MisterRoy
Continuity, no matter the cost.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:09 pm
by DuckIII
Naturally.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:21 pm
by sco
Some day those pictures AK has of Reinsdorf will become public and we'll have our escape.
But on an unrelated note, I'm still mad that Billy caught Smith sleeping with his wife.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:39 pm
by MikeDC
lol
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:43 pm
by League Circles
I'm going to look on the bright side for two simple reasons. First, there is simply no logical reason to believe that a replacement would be an improvement. Second, having better job security probably increases the chances tad they will do wise long-term moves rather than dumb short-term moves.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:00 pm
by Jcool0
sco wrote:Some day those pictures AK has of Reinsdorf will become public and we'll have our escape.
But on an unrelated note, I'm still mad that Billy caught Smith sleeping with his wife.
Did Paxon give his pictures to AK?
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:14 pm
by drosestruts
I suppose they started in 2020 so would be the natural time to give an extension (like Billy this is possible their 2nd extension).
Being under contract doesn't prevent you from getting fired.
I've been pretty whelmed by the front office. It's been a mixed bag for 5 seasons.
I enjoyed the way we played in teh second half of the last season and hope to see some actual direction and consideration put into the team building and not just collecting talent regardless of fit (which I feel we've done in the past)
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:30 pm
by Mr. Tibbs
Unserious franchise
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:55 pm
by MisterRoy
I don’t really pay attention to the front offices of other teams but do they all do dumb stuff and eventually get it right? Maybe?
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:56 pm
by HomoSapien
It'd only be surprising if it didn't happen.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:09 pm
by nomorezorro
there was a quiet extension reported in 2023 too...is it normal to extend your front office twice in five years?
i guess irrespective of the contract details, it is safe to assume that a reinsdorf front office will be carried by inertia until long after the rest of the world has arrived at the obvious conclusion that they're not cut out for the job
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:46 pm
by Indomitable
Jcool0 wrote:sco wrote:Some day those pictures AK has of Reinsdorf will become public and we'll have our escape.
But on an unrelated note, I'm still mad that Billy caught Smith sleeping with his wife.
Did Paxon give his pictures to AK?
Pax at least drafted a few all stars and got us to the conference finals.
Akme has not even won 2 playoff games in 6 years. This is moronic.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:59 pm
by DuckIII
League Circles wrote:I'm going to look on the bright side for two simple reasons. First, there is simply no logical reason to believe that a replacement would be an improvement.
Sure there is. Its not guaranteed, but there are perfectly logical reasons to believe in the likelihood.
Outside of Nico Harrison (who was saved by the lottery but already revealed to be a moron), AK is in my opinion the worst GM in the NBA. Sure I don't follow the other teams like I follow my own, but it would be an uphill battle to convince me there are any worse. And if there are some that are worse, the number would be very small. The likelihood heavily favors an improvement. Assuming AK has autonomy to operate of course, and all evidence is that he does.
More importantly, this is not a "be careful what you wish for" situation like with Paxson. It was always a very real possibility that we would end up with a worse GM than Pax. Pax was, at minimum, an average and moderately competent GM. There was significant room beneath him in the quality department. Which has been confirmed with horrible clarity in real life.
Second, having better job security probably increases the chances tad they will do wise long-term moves rather than dumb short-term moves.
Good point. Lets hope. This summer should give us a decent idea.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:01 pm
by Jcool0
Indomitable wrote:Jcool0 wrote:sco wrote:Some day those pictures AK has of Reinsdorf will become public and we'll have our escape.
But on an unrelated note, I'm still mad that Billy caught Smith sleeping with his wife.
Did Paxon give his pictures to AK?
Pax at least drafted a few all stars and got us to the conference finals.
Akme has not even won 2 playoff games in 6 years. This is moronic.
Took Pax 9 seasons to build a team that got to one conference final. And in those 9 seasons the Bulls won 50+ games once (the conference finals season). But the Bulls did go .500 or worse 6x in that time.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:03 pm
by DuckIII
nomorezorro wrote:there was a quiet extension reported in 2023 too...is it normal to extend your front office twice in five years?
Hopefully its not common, and this is a sign they are giving him micro-extensions so that they can more easily move on if they can him. Taking a page from League Circles and trying to be optimistic, it could be a sign this is a "prove it" deal.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:05 pm
by DuckIII
Jcool0 wrote:Indomitable wrote:Jcool0 wrote:
Did Paxon give his pictures to AK?
Pax at least drafted a few all stars and got us to the conference finals.
Akme has not even won 2 playoff games in 6 years. This is moronic.
Took Pax 9 seasons to build a team that got to one conference final. And in those 9 seasons the Bulls won 50+ games once (the conference finals season). But the Bulls did go .500 or worse 6x in that time.
I'm not going to bother debating in detail who is worse between Pax and AK. Only the most virulent Pax hater would entertain the discussion. I'll just note that part of the reason we had 6 sub .500 seasons is because Paxson actually believed in rebuilding and was willing to blow up his teams in order to reach a higher goal.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:15 pm
by CROBulls
I would not be suprised if AK/ME just give themself their own extensions. That's how it works in capitalistic late stage America.
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:23 pm
by CobysHairpick
AK got all the bad contracts off the books so of course Jerry extended him!
Edit: Forgot about Pat!
Re: Bulls extended AK/ME?
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:31 pm
by League Circles
DuckIII wrote:League Circles wrote:I'm going to look on the bright side for two simple reasons. First, there is simply no logical reason to believe that a replacement would be an improvement.
Sure there is. Its not guaranteed, but there are perfectly logical reasons to believe in the likelihood.
Outside of Nico Harrison (who was saved by the lottery but already revealed to be a moron), AK is in my opinion the worst GM in the NBA. Sure I don't follow the other teams like I follow my own, but it would be an uphill battle to convince me there are any worse. And if there are some that are worse, the number would be very small. The likelihood heavily favors an improvement. Assuming AK has autonomy to operate of course, and all evidence is that he does.
More importantly, this is not a "be careful what you wish for" situation like with Paxson. It was always a very real possibility that we would end up with a worse GM than Pax. Pax was, at minimum, an average and moderately competent GM. There was significant room beneath him in the quality department. Which has been confirmed with horrible clarity in real life.
Second, having better job security probably increases the chances tad they will do wise long-term moves rather than dumb short-term moves.
Good point. Lets hope. This summer should give us a decent idea.
I don't have a high opinion of AK but IMO he's not nearly as disastrous as posters like you believe he is. But if we were going to hire a new exec from among the 29 other execs I'd probably agree that odds are we get at least a small improvement. But that's not the case. We'd most likely be hiring from among an enormous group of people currently within and outside the nba, and among that group of nobodies and has-beens, I don't see any particular reason to think they'd be better than AK. AK has made a number of outright bad moves which are very frustrating, and I don't think he's good, but his objective results have been nearly average. Not saying that's all or even primarily what he should be graded on, but it's perhaps the single most relevant objective measure.