RealGM article: Zach Randolph on the block
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RealGM article: Zach Randolph on the block
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RealGM article: Zach Randolph on the block
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Not surprisingly, even though IT knows more about basketball than us, the trade for Zbo has not exactly worked out.
Now that we will (hopefully) be playing the youngsters soon, I am really against the Bulls getting Randolph, as opposed to mildly upset/indifferent.
But he was a popular choice here a while ago.
Unless the Knicks want Wallace, Randolph to team X, team X sends the Bulls ?
I think Ben Wallace would either really help the Knicks, sulk, or kill them for not trying on defense.
Not surprisingly, even though IT knows more about basketball than us, the trade for Zbo has not exactly worked out.
Now that we will (hopefully) be playing the youngsters soon, I am really against the Bulls getting Randolph, as opposed to mildly upset/indifferent.
But he was a popular choice here a while ago.
Unless the Knicks want Wallace, Randolph to team X, team X sends the Bulls ?
I think Ben Wallace would either really help the Knicks, sulk, or kill them for not trying on defense.
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I want no part of Randolph.
The thing I don't understand about the rumor - a rumor that Zeke will be quick to publicly dismiss - is the trade partner: Milwaukee?
Recent reports have it that their two "favorite" pieces for the future are Bogut and Yi. Why the hell would they want Zach and his contract for that many years?
Doesn't make any sense.
The thing I don't understand about the rumor - a rumor that Zeke will be quick to publicly dismiss - is the trade partner: Milwaukee?
Recent reports have it that their two "favorite" pieces for the future are Bogut and Yi. Why the hell would they want Zach and his contract for that many years?
Doesn't make any sense.
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I've never seen a franchise go this quickly through so many "major pieces", all of whom the bloom has been off the rose in less than a year.
ZBo
Francis
Frye (minor piece but still)
Jalen Rose was lauded
Jerome James (minor expensive piece who never cracked the rotation)
Jeffries
More successful acquisitions have been
Curry
Crawford
QRich
Marbury
and even those guys have always had some serious detractors.
ZBo
Francis
Frye (minor piece but still)
Jalen Rose was lauded
Jerome James (minor expensive piece who never cracked the rotation)
Jeffries
More successful acquisitions have been
Curry
Crawford
QRich
Marbury
and even those guys have always had some serious detractors.
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I cannot beleive I told Doug and the rest at the draft party that the Zach trade was a good move for the Knicks.
Guess I like the club and I want them to do well.....but really Zach Randolph is pure crap.
And in a moment of unqualifed insanity I think I might have even mentioned the non-move for Zach by Paxson as a negative.
What was I thinking??
Guess I like the club and I want them to do well.....but really Zach Randolph is pure crap.
And in a moment of unqualifed insanity I think I might have even mentioned the non-move for Zach by Paxson as a negative.



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i think all other GM's should do whatever to keep him, Curry, Crawford and Marburry in NY so we can continue to watch the team in the #1 market flounder.
can we just give them Wallace as a present?
35 years of futility and 1 HOF player is amazing when you think about it.
and Zach is most definately a stat whore. i liked what they said on the radio about the other players apparently not liking him because when they pass him the ball he just keeps it.
but i do miss the old 'jailBlazers' moniker, that was a pretty good one.
it is disturbing in a sense however that the team is full of Chicago folk in Thomas, Acquire, Curry, Q and now Chandler.
can we just give them Wallace as a present?
35 years of futility and 1 HOF player is amazing when you think about it.
and Zach is most definately a stat whore. i liked what they said on the radio about the other players apparently not liking him because when they pass him the ball he just keeps it.
but i do miss the old 'jailBlazers' moniker, that was a pretty good one.
it is disturbing in a sense however that the team is full of Chicago folk in Thomas, Acquire, Curry, Q and now Chandler.
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I'm sure I'm the lone voice on this, but I'd still take him straight up for Wallace. I think with some good, consistent other pieces around him, you can hide some of his flaws better. And if he doesn't work out, even with the extra year on the contract, I still think he's more tradeable then Wallace.
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kyrv wrote:http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50223/20080110/source_randolph_on_the_block_could_end_up_in_milwaukee/
Not surprisingly, even though IT knows more about basketball than us, the trade for Zbo has not exactly worked out.

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Total random, but:
Bulls trade: Ben Wallace + lotto protected 1st
Bulls receive: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble
Cavs trade: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble
Cavs receive: Zach Randolph + lotto protected 1st
Knicks trade: Zach Randolph
Knicks receive: Ben Wallace
For us: We dump Wallace for an equally crappy player in Hughes, but at least he plays a position that we could use a little help at. We give up a 1st in exchange for Newble's expiring which savesus some money.
For the Cavs: Rather than taking Wallace, they take a guy who's age more closely correlates with LeBron and a guy who can bring some more offense to the table.
For the Knicks: Isiah picks up a guy who can defend and rebound to place next to Curry and who's deal is one year shorter than Randolph's.
Bulls
1. Hinrich, Duhon, Curry
2. Hughes, Gordon, Griffin
3. Deng, Nocioni, Sefolosha, Newble
4. Smith, Thomas, Khryapa
5. Noah, Gray
Bulls trade: Ben Wallace + lotto protected 1st
Bulls receive: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble
Cavs trade: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble
Cavs receive: Zach Randolph + lotto protected 1st
Knicks trade: Zach Randolph
Knicks receive: Ben Wallace
For us: We dump Wallace for an equally crappy player in Hughes, but at least he plays a position that we could use a little help at. We give up a 1st in exchange for Newble's expiring which savesus some money.
For the Cavs: Rather than taking Wallace, they take a guy who's age more closely correlates with LeBron and a guy who can bring some more offense to the table.
For the Knicks: Isiah picks up a guy who can defend and rebound to place next to Curry and who's deal is one year shorter than Randolph's.
Bulls
1. Hinrich, Duhon, Curry
2. Hughes, Gordon, Griffin
3. Deng, Nocioni, Sefolosha, Newble
4. Smith, Thomas, Khryapa
5. Noah, Gray
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kyrv wrote:Unless the Knicks want Wallace, Randolph to team X, team X sends the Bulls ?
I think Ben Wallace would either really help the Knicks, sulk, or kill them for not trying on defense.
I rather keep Wallace, then bring Zach Randolph over here. Isn't Randolph's contract like much uglier then Big Ben's contract? Meaning his contract is more length in years and his salary is a bit bigger then Big Ben's salary.
Plus you think Zach Randolph going to work out with Scott Sk....errrr I forgot he's not here anymore .



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Isn't Randolph's contract like much uglier then Big Ben's contract?
After this season Wallace has 2 years 28.5 million left.
After this year Randolph has 3 years, 48 million left.
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somehow i think maybe just maybe randolph could be a good contributor somewhere..but the stars would have to align just right. I honestly don't know how it'd work. He can't pass the ball so i think you'd have to just not play him all that much except for when ur starving for points..but if u play him spot minutes then he'll whine and become a cancer in that way.
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You might think I'm retarted for saying this but the player the Bulls could use most right now is Eddy Curry on the cheap.
Maybe a deal like Nocioni plus Duhon for Curry. Think about it this way, Thomas and Noah can make up for his lack of boards and shotblocking while Curry actually gives you the inside threat. All you give up are duplicate players.
Maybe a deal like Nocioni plus Duhon for Curry. Think about it this way, Thomas and Noah can make up for his lack of boards and shotblocking while Curry actually gives you the inside threat. All you give up are duplicate players.