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Not surprisingly, even though IT knows more about basketball than us, the trade for Zbo has not exactly worked out.

Now that we will (hopefully) be playing the youngsters soon, I am really against the Bulls getting Randolph, as opposed to mildly upset/indifferent.

But he was a popular choice here a while ago.

Unless the Knicks want Wallace, Randolph to team X, team X sends the Bulls ?

I think Ben Wallace would either really help the Knicks, sulk, or kill them for not trying on defense.

Be forewarned. Stay away from Z-bo.

I want no part of Randolph.

The thing I don't understand about the rumor - a rumor that Zeke will be quick to publicly dismiss - is the trade partner: Milwaukee?

Recent reports have it that their two "favorite" pieces for the future are Bogut and Yi. Why the hell would they want Zach and his contract for that many years?

Doesn't make any sense.

Of all the things Milwaukee needs, Zach Randolph isn't one of them.

Cliff Levingston wouldn't trade Wallace straight up for him. Maybe if they threw in their first rounder this year, unprotected.

Portland is playing tons better now that Randolph is gone and in a limited sample the Knicks have played better without him.

Can we agree that he's a stat whore?

I've never seen a franchise go this quickly through so many "major pieces", all of whom the bloom has been off the rose in less than a year.
ZBo
Francis
Frye (minor piece but still)
Jalen Rose was lauded
Jerome James (minor expensive piece who never cracked the rotation)
Jeffries

More successful acquisitions have been
Curry
Crawford
QRich
Marbury

and even those guys have always had some serious detractors.

I cannot beleive I told Doug and the rest at the draft party that the Zach trade was a good move for the Knicks.

Guess I like the club and I want them to do well.....but really Zach Randolph is pure crap.

And in a moment of unqualifed insanity I think I might have even mentioned the non-move for Zach by Paxson as a negative.

What was I thinking??

I'd be interested in a 3 way trade where somebody else gets him.

I'm against any trade that results in him wearing a Bulls uniform.

kyrv wrote:even though IT knows more about basketball than us

Love how you snuck that in there.

i think all other GM's should do whatever to keep him, Curry, Crawford and Marburry in NY so we can continue to watch the team in the #1 market flounder.

can we just give them Wallace as a present?

35 years of futility and 1 HOF player is amazing when you think about it.

and Zach is most definately a stat whore. i liked what they said on the radio about the other players apparently not liking him because when they pass him the ball he just keeps it.

but i do miss the old 'jailBlazers' moniker, that was a pretty good one.

it is disturbing in a sense however that the team is full of Chicago folk in Thomas, Acquire, Curry, Q and now Chandler.

I'm sure I'm the lone voice on this, but I'd still take him straight up for Wallace. I think with some good, consistent other pieces around him, you can hide some of his flaws better. And if he doesn't work out, even with the extra year on the contract, I still think he's more tradeable then Wallace.

Sham wrote:Of all the things Milwaukee needs, Zach Randolph isn't one of them.

NY needs ZBO even less. As much as we need an inside scorer, I would hate to get Zach. I hate the fact that he plays no defense and is a total thug. He is also a black hole on offense.

kyrv wrote:http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50223/20080110/source_randolph_on_the_block_could_end_up_in_milwaukee/

Not surprisingly, even though IT knows more about basketball than us, the trade for Zbo has not exactly worked out.

Total random, but:

Bulls trade: Ben Wallace + lotto protected 1st
Bulls receive: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble

Cavs trade: Larry Hughes + Ira Newble
Cavs receive: Zach Randolph + lotto protected 1st

Knicks trade: Zach Randolph
Knicks receive: Ben Wallace

For us: We dump Wallace for an equally crappy player in Hughes, but at least he plays a position that we could use a little help at. We give up a 1st in exchange for Newble's expiring which savesus some money.

For the Cavs: Rather than taking Wallace, they take a guy who's age more closely correlates with LeBron and a guy who can bring some more offense to the table.

For the Knicks: Isiah picks up a guy who can defend and rebound to place next to Curry and who's deal is one year shorter than Randolph's.

Bulls
1. Hinrich, Duhon, Curry
2. Hughes, Gordon, Griffin
3. Deng, Nocioni, Sefolosha, Newble
4. Smith, Thomas, Khryapa
5. Noah, Gray

kyrv wrote:Unless the Knicks want Wallace, Randolph to team X, team X sends the Bulls ?

I think Ben Wallace would either really help the Knicks, sulk, or kill them for not trying on defense.

I rather keep Wallace, then bring Zach Randolph over here. Isn't Randolph's contract like much uglier then Big Ben's contract? Meaning his contract is more length in years and his salary is a bit bigger then Big Ben's salary.

Plus you think Zach Randolph going to work out with Scott Sk....errrr I forgot he's not here anymore . So that eliminated that problem alone. But seriously I rather keep Big Ben then bring Zach back unless they include all their youngsters in a package(Lee, Balkman, Nate, hell throw in Ralph Morris too, and maybe a first rounder too )

Then I might consider it.

pduh01 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Isn't Randolph's contract like much uglier then Big Ben's contract?

After this season Wallace has 2 years 28.5 million left.

After this year Randolph has 3 years, 48 million left.

I maintain my position that we shouldn't make a trade for him, if we're part of a 3-way which lands us something else thats of use, then fine by me.

somehow i think maybe just maybe randolph could be a good contributor somewhere..but the stars would have to align just right. I honestly don't know how it'd work. He can't pass the ball so i think you'd have to just not play him all that much except for when ur starving for points..but if u play him spot minutes then he'll whine and become a cancer in that way.

You might think I'm retarted for saying this but the player the Bulls could use most right now is Eddy Curry on the cheap.

Maybe a deal like Nocioni plus Duhon for Curry. Think about it this way, Thomas and Noah can make up for his lack of boards and shotblocking while Curry actually gives you the inside threat. All you give up are duplicate players.