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Bulls need real coach, great player
With stars like McGrady and Gasol possibly available, Bulls GM needs to make a deal

i sorta hate hearing the we need a great player nonsense..alotta teams have great players and suck. we don't need a great player we need the right player.

i also notice tb#1 is posting these links at a rapid fire rate. that's some good modwork lol

Just doin' my job, ma'am.

He is right about Boylan . I have not been impressed about him at all . This teams needs a real head coach

mr.ankle wrote:He is right about Boylan . I have not been impressed about him at all . This teams needs a real head coach

I think Pax's is going to tank the rest of the season that is why he wants to play the younger players but we need a real coach.

Mr. Tibbs wrote:i sorta hate hearing the we need a great player nonsense..alotta teams have great players and suck. we don't need a great player we need the right player.

Thank you! Seriously, Jay Mariotti thinks that by getting this "superstar(s)" the Bulls automatically are right back in the mix. Did he not read his own article? Yao Ming + Tracy McGrady has not even got past the 1st round. Forget McGrady's injury. Its all over the NBA. That's because two "superstar" guys suck the Team Salary Cap drier than Las Vegas, Nevada summer afternoon. You need to pay well for the good role players too. Its not easy to build a championship team. It takes quite a bit of luck, and the right blend of players, esp. nowadays with the salary constrictions, let alone team chemistry. I'm off the T-Mac to Chicago bandwagon, unless they take Ben Wallace & Chris Duhon.

I am just so sick of we need a superstar argument.

Dont the media really think long and hard about what they are saying.....AND seeing?

Superstar + Crap = Lottery team

Havent they figured it out yet? Why do they associate everyone that they consider a superstar equal to automatically winning?

Last year KG had been out of the playoffs 3 straight years. Allen Iverson team was one of the worst in the league the past 2 years before getting traded. Paul Pierce was on the worst Celtic team in history last year. DWade and Shaq currently play for the worst team in the East.

It just irritates me everytime I see them try and blame Pax for not making deals. You dont gut your team for one guy unless your team is one of the worst in the league and you want to start over. Kast I checked, there havent been many deals to come across our table that would let us trade VK,Thabo and a first round pick for a disgruntled superstar.

Mariotti speaks to the casual fan who doesn't understand sports at all.


Everything he says is typically cliche half-truths designed to give the most negative light on a situation possible. If someone actually followed Mariotti's advice (in any sport) their team would be an absolute train wreck.

Should we pursue McGrady? I don't know, I don't see how you trade for a guy who's said he's going to retire in 2 years. We're highly unlikely to win a title in the next 2 years even if McGrady stays healthy for us. Given how rich he already is, how chronic his problems are, and how injured he always is, I think it's pretty easy to believe he's serious as well.

Should we trade for Pau Gasol? If the price has gone down enough then I would say yes. However, people have really put Gasol on this pedestal that isn't really an accurate depiction of his play. He'd be a perfect piece to fit on our roster. He wouldn't be a guy who's so good you trade 2 of the good pieces on your roster to get though. Plus, I'm not sure what memphis would realistically want from us. If a deal could really be centered around Nocioni and one of our young big men then we'd be crazy not to do it. If we're back to the Deng + Tyrus + a pick type stuff then no, it doesn't help us any.

Getting a good coach is Paxson's plan, but the assertion that we should hire the best coach in a period with few options and then stick with him for 3-4 years isn't. We're SO much better off waiting until the off season to have the greatest pool of candidates available in order to make the right hire. This guy is going to be around for probably 3 years at a minimum. Even if you consider Boylan a D- as a coach, you don't hire a C+ now when you might get a B in the off season.

I don't know why I wasted time reading snippets of a Mariotti article or replying to his points. That's why he sucks you in, just to get you to yell at him.

Bulls69 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think Pax's is going to tank the rest of the season that is why he wants to play the younger players but we need a real coach.

He said he wanted to see younger players when he fired Skiles and then Boylan put cement around Tyrus and Noah on the bench.

Mr. Tibbs wrote:we don't need a great player we need the right player.

it can't be said any better than that. great quote.

all i'm asking for is a guard with the ability to dunk/finish/draw the foul. it doesn't have to be a superstar, it can be a guy who we make a superstar.

and Boylan bothers me less than bringing in a re-tread.
the only re-treads out there with NBA Championships are Larry Brown and Tomjonavich anyway. They are not coming here.

Popovich and Jackson are the most decorated coaches in the NBA right now and they were both assistants like Boylan. They took talented players and developed them into superstars and dynasties.

Why can't Boylan be the next? Get him some legit talent before you toss him off the bridge.

dougthonus wrote:Mariotti speaks to the casual fan who doesn't understand sports at all.


Everything he says is typically cliche half-truths designed to give the most negative light on a situation possible. If someone actually followed Mariotti's advice (in any sport) their team would be an absolute train wreck.

Should we pursue McGrady? I don't know, I don't see how you trade for a guy who's said he's going to retire in 2 years. We're highly unlikely to win a title in the next 2 years even if McGrady stays healthy for us. Given how rich he already is, how chronic his problems are, and how injured he always is, I think it's pretty easy to believe he's serious as well.

Should we trade for Pau Gasol? If the price has gone down enough then I would say yes. However, people have really put Gasol on this pedestal that isn't really an accurate depiction of his play. He'd be a perfect piece to fit on our roster. He wouldn't be a guy who's so good you trade 2 of the good pieces on your roster to get though. Plus, I'm not sure what memphis would realistically want from us. If a deal could really be centered around Nocioni and one of our young big men then we'd be crazy not to do it. If we're back to the Deng + Tyrus + a pick type stuff then no, it doesn't help us any.

Getting a good coach is Paxson's plan, but the assertion that we should hire the best coach in a period with few options and then stick with him for 3-4 years isn't. We're SO much better off waiting until the off season to have the greatest pool of candidates available in order to make the right hire. This guy is going to be around for probably 3 years at a minimum. Even if you consider Boylan a D- as a coach, you don't hire a C+ now when you might get a B in the off season.

I don't know why I wasted time reading snippets of a Mariotti article or replying to his points. That's why he sucks you in, just to get you to yell at him.

so true. Barkley, mariotti and countless others..steven a smith does it but at least sometimes he's right...what they do is they make it seem like everything can so simply be fixed with one move. I doubt they could solve a kids puzzle if it had more then 3 pieces involved.

Wait, wait, wait is always a part of Pax's plan. Wait for a coach. Wait for a star to be developed. Wait for a low post scorer (two years?).

Pax has to go. Let the next GM hire the new coach.

Mariotti speaks to the casual fan who doesn't understand sports at all.

Everything he says is typically cliche half-truths designed to give the most negative light on a situation possible. If someone actually followed Mariotti's advice (in any sport) their team would be an absolute train wreck.

Should we pursue McGrady? I don't know, I don't see how you trade for a guy who's said he's going to retire in 2 years. We're highly unlikely to win a title in the next 2 years even if McGrady stays healthy for us. Given how rich he already is, how chronic his problems are, and how injured he always is, I think it's pretty easy to believe he's serious as well.

Should we trade for Pau Gasol? If the price has gone down enough then I would say yes. However, people have really put Gasol on this pedestal that isn't really an accurate depiction of his play. He'd be a perfect piece to fit on our roster. He wouldn't be a guy who's so good you trade 2 of the good pieces on your roster to get though. Plus, I'm not sure what memphis would realistically want from us. If a deal could really be centered around Nocioni and one of our young big men then we'd be crazy not to do it. If we're back to the Deng + Tyrus + a pick type stuff then no, it doesn't help us any.

Getting a good coach is Paxson's plan, but the assertion that we should hire the best coach in a period with few options and then stick with him for 3-4 years isn't. We're SO much better off waiting until the off season to have the greatest pool of candidates available in order to make the right hire. This guy is going to be around for probably 3 years at a minimum. Even if you consider Boylan a D- as a coach, you don't hire a C+ now when you might get a B in the off season.

I don't know why I wasted time reading snippets of a Mariotti article or replying to his points. That's why he sucks you in, just to get you to yell at him.

posts like these are why i'm a realgm convert; excellent POV

Wait, wait, wait is always a part of Pax's plan. Wait for a coach. Wait for a star to be developed. Wait for a low post scorer (two years?).

Pax has to go. Let the next GM hire the new coach.

posts like these are why mariotti has a column......

im not exactly a mariotti fan, but i agree with his article. his article reaks of impatience. and i think we are all growing impatient. but i think most here miss the point about getting a great player. true, we may not be any better or competitive, but it would be more interesting to watch than this boring mix. he mentions how boring it is to watch this team and i agree. i just want to watch some different players. this team bores me to tears. even last year when playing well i was bored.

probably my favorite bulls season was when jordan retired and hue hollins screwed us. that team played exciting team ball and had some fun players still to watch. i miss that.

Granville Colter wrote:im not exactly a mariotti fan, but i agree with his article. his article reaks of impatience. and i think we are all growing impatient. but i think most here miss the point about getting a great player. true, we may not be any better or competitive, but it would be more interesting to watch than this boring mix. he mentions how boring it is to watch this team and i agree. i just want to watch some different players. this team bores me to tears. even last year when playing well i was bored.

probably my favorite bulls season was when jordan retired and hue hollins screwed us. that team played exciting team ball and had some fun players still to watch. i miss that.

I guess it all depends on what entertains you has a fan. If its high flying dunks and razzle dazzle passes and all that stuff, then this team would be considered as being very boring. However, winning entertains me. When the team can go out and effectively execute a gameplan, that tends to be entertaining and fun to watch for me personally. The best team this decade has also been considered to be "boring". Yet, you have to appreciate the way that they play the game. I tend to agree with the poster that stated that its not about finding a star player, but the right player. Just give me someone that is going to fit and ultimately make this team better. I really dont invest too much into the whole star player thing.

BR0D1E86 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He said he wanted to see younger players when he fired Skiles and then Boylan put cement around Tyrus and Noah on the bench.

Brodie, you are so right I rather see the Bulls start to play Tryus and Noah to give these kids some PT.

Granville Colter wrote:

probably my favorite bulls season was when jordan retired and hue hollins screwed us. that team played exciting team ball and had some fun players still to watch. i miss that.

For me that 1994 Bulls Team is my favorite of all time. They played good team ball, and scored points in bunches. However, they had some of the same crazy qualities as this current team has, scoring droughts.

The teams failure to meet expectations this year had me feeling impatient and wanting them to make a move. Then I sat back and looked at the roster. This team is still young and still has players to develop. Now I am more impatient at their inability to play Noah, Thabo, and TT. It is time to committ to youth and play them. This teams window is in two years.

The pool is thin. But a sensible name that keeps surfacing is Jeff Van Gundy, an accomplished NBA coach who has dealt with every imaginable ego, knows how to handle pressure after coaching in New York and has a Finals appearance on his resume. I happen to like his work on ESPN, including the now-cultish commercial in which he yelps ``Whaaaaat?'' when he's supposed to be driving a bus.

I like his work on ESPN as a color analyst as well, and that commercial is funny. These are excellent reasons to advocate the hiring of a coach. So lets hire both Van Gundy and Mike Tirico as co-coaches. They are good on ESPN - and in commercials - and thats most certainly good enough for me.