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listening to this at work also- slamming big ben and griffin right from the start- says this is all Pax's fault.

Oh good - blaming Luol for not getting traded to LA.


Oh Jesus, now they're talking about not getting Garnett.

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Oh good - blaming Luol for not getting traded to LA.


Oh Jesus, now they're talking about not getting Garnett.

That kills me, just kills me.

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Oh good - blaming Luol for not getting traded to LA.


Oh Jesus, now they're talking about not getting Garnett.

When I first heard of the Kobe talk, I thought we could trade Lu and Ben G. for Kobe. I was very torn thinking that. But in Hindsight, we should have.

Let the hate rain come down. Paxson, the coaches, the players all deserve it. No need to cupcake anything. I don't care. This team has lost it.

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Oh good - blaming Luol for not getting traded to LA.

Huh? How do they construct that argument?

I think anyone listening to Chicago sports radio today should be prepared for a consistent string of idiocy from the radio personalities and callers alike.

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Huh? How do they construct that argument?

I think anyone listening to Chicago sports radio today should be prepared for a consistent string of idiocy from the radio personalities and callers alike.

That's a pretty normal day. Sports radio is pretty stupid on any day of the week.

they're right on about Boylan though- what kind of coach sets a punishment and let's the players dictate additional punishment. i can maybe see if this were a winning, cohesive team, but come on. wallace just figured he'd get extra playing time with noah on the bench.

They didn't blame Luol for not getting traded. They blamed Pax for falling in love with him and in the process maybe missing out on some potential trades.

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Oh good - blaming Luol for not getting traded to LA.


Oh Jesus, now they're talking about not getting Garnett.

All the media outlets needs to look at our roster for once and for all. To get those trades to go down, we'll be in a worse position than we are now. One superstar with no one to help. Yeah, that'll work. Houston has two superstars, and are one & done each year.

They did bring up a good point - why didn't kirk,luol, or ben lead this team meeting? they are supposed to be the best players on the court but they seem to be nothing off the court.

Our best players are not in charge here!

HeavyC wrote:They didn't blame Luol for not getting traded. They blamed Pax for falling in love with him and in the process maybe missing out on some potential trades.

These same radio personalities would be bitching right now even if we did trade Deng. I can see it right now:

"The Bulls traded away a 22 year old SF who was just starting to come into his own. Deng is currently averaging a double/double with his new team, 21 points, 10 rebounds, 3.5 assists on 55% shooting. Meanwhile, the Bulls still look lost out there even with ___________. Out of every player on the roster, Paxson chose to trade the best one. It's time for Paxson to pack his bags as well."

I'm noit saying we shouldn't make a trade, but God only knows that's what would happen.

HeavyC wrote:They didn't blame Luol for not getting traded. They blamed Pax for falling in love with him and in the process maybe missing out on some potential trades.

No, Mulligan spent about 10 minutes blaming Deng for just about everything - including not finding the cure for cancer.

As Hanley reminded him over and over, Deng doesn't trade himself, and he is still only 22 years old.

robg wrote:They did bring up a good point - why didn't kirk,luol, or ben lead this team meeting? they are supposed to be the best players on the court but they seem to be nothing off the court.

Our best players are not in charge here!

Kirk hasn't been one of our best players in a while. The team should take a vote and make him sit - just on the strength.

Everybody's frustrated by how lousy the Bulls have played this season. And Paxson has at least APPEARED to be too conserative in making trades -- what the reality is in regard to making a trade for a so-called superstar is, who knows. It isnt Paxson's fault that McHale preferred to trade Garnet to his best friend (Ainge). The Kobe Bryant situation was muddled from the start because of his no-trade clause that allows him to veto any deal (whether he vetoed a trade to the Bulls is unclear, depending on who you believe). Should Paxson continue to aggressively look to make a trade for a star? Of course he should -- but it is unrealisti to expect him to get one, because stars aren't traded all that open unless they openly ask out.

As for the players, all of them have to shoulder the majority of the blame for this disaster of a season. The sad fact is that they probably overachieved last season based on their talent level. But there is still no reason why they should have gone from a team that was playing at a consistent and relatively high level over the latter half of last season to the train wreck they've become. Trade rumors, contract situations, marriage, etc. -- those are all tired excuses. These are prfessionals who should be able to put the petty crap behind them and give a full effort out on the court. No one player on this team should receive the blame for the Bulls' play -- the only ones who shouldn't be blamed are the couple of guys who don't play at all (Khryapa, Griffin, Curry, Nichols). The starters and the reserves who DO play are all at fault -- to one extent or another -- for what this team has become.

Duck,
Radio hosts and callers have every right to rip this team from top to bottom. They are garbage and certainly in line for a shredding.

girlygirl wrote:the only ones who shouldn't be blamed are the couple of guys who don't play at all (Khryapa, Griffin, Curry, Nichols).

They should be blamed too. They probably aren't pushing the starters as hard in practice.

Seriously though, I still say some player(s) will become available at the deadline, it always seems to happen every year. With the current state of the Bulls and impending contract situations, I expect Pax to be much more aggresive this time around. It doesn't mean he'll make a trade, but I think he'll be more open to trading any of these guys than he ever has.

voice of reason wrote:listening to this at work also- slamming big ben and griffin right from the start- says this is all Pax's fault.

I've been sayin its Pax from the start.. People here are in dream/lala/wonderland.

This GM has no balls to pull a deal. He doesn't know how to take good gambles, he's like a coach that doesn't make ingame adjustments.

Paxson should go back to radio, he even sucks at that too.

topper09 wrote:I've been sayin its Pax from the start.. People here are in dream/lala/wonderland.

This GM has no balls to pull a deal. He doesn't know how to take good gambles, he's like a coach that doesn't make ingame adjustments.

Paxson should go back to radio, he even sucks at that too.

The people "living in a dreamland" are doing so because they need some actual evidence to support the conclusions that you make without the benefit of proof.

I'd say those people are actually grounded firmly in reality whereas it is someone like you who is dealing in the realm of the unknown.

This GM has no balls to pull a deal? Why? Because he hasn't pulled a deal? What are the terms of the deals he proposed? What are the offers he rejected? Did said terms make sense for Chicago?

He doesn't know how to take a good gamble? What are the facts of the gamble he should have taken, but didn't take?

Answer those questions and get back to me. Also, fax the answers to ESPN, FoxSports, the Chicago Sun Times and the Tribune so that they can report what you've learned.

Bernstein has said on todays show that the Bulls are fed up with Tyrus, and that he has been told that Tyrus will be gone by the trade deadline - and that they are so fed up they don't care what they get back for him.



I'm scared.