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Tigers Vs. Indians 

Post#1 » by m23uza1hem36 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:50 pm

Probable Pitchers:
Game 1: Edwin Jackson, RHP (12-7, 3.37) Vs. Justin Masterson, RHP (4-8, 4.49)
Tigers: After stingy pitching with a power fastball and biting slider for the first half of the season, Jackson is struggling with the slider a bit, leaving opponents to jump on his fastball for damage. He has allowed 21 earned runs on 37 hits over 31 1/3 innings in his last five starts. His ERA has risen a half-run in that span, from 2.86 on August 21 to 3.37 now. He'll try not simply to throw the slider now, but throw it with confidence against a hyper-aggressive Indians lineup. He's 3-0 with a 2.74 ERA in four starts against Cleveland this year, including two earned runs allowed over 11 innings at Progressive Field.

Indians: After allowing just one earned run through six innings in his previous two starts, Masterson struggled in his most recent starting nod against the A's, surrendering five runs on six hits and four walks while striking out six through just four innings. Masterson attributed his less-than-stellar outing to his inability to locate his sinker, which proved especially costly when it resulted in a three-run homer off the bat of Kurt Suzuki. Still adjusting to his role as a starter after playing the reliever role in Boston until being traded July 31, Masterson will look to bounce back against the Tigers. In two games (3 1/3 combined innings) this season, he has allowed just two hits and one walk while striking out six against Detroit.


Game 2: Rick Porcello, RHP (13-9, 4.22) Vs. David Huff, LHP (10-8, 5.98)
Tigers: For a 20-year-old rookie in just his second full season of professional baseball, the numbers on Porcello since August have been like a second wind -- a 3.51 ERA, .232 batting average against, and a .626 OPS in his last 10 starts. That includes six innings and three runs allowed in a defeat in his last outing on Friday at Minnesota, where his offense was held scoreless. That stretch run began with eight innings of one-run ball August 1 at Cleveland, where he returns.

Indians: Huff limited Oakland to two runs through six frames in his last start, scattering seven hits and two walks while striking out three. However, he admitted to struggling with his command around the zone. Huff has pitched at least six innings in his last four starts, surrendering three runs or less in all of them. This is the rookie's first career start against Detroit.


Game 3:Justin Verlander, RHP (16-9, 3.44) Vs. Jeremy Sowers, LHP (6-10, 4.92)
Tigers: Don't let the numbers from his last outing fool you. Verlander took a one-run game into the eighth inning before a fly ball lost against the roof of the Metrodome for a double helped spring open a five-run Twins rally. Verlander hit 101 mph on his 127th and final pitch of that outing, a Jason Kubel bloop single that brought in two runs and extended Verlander's winless streak to three consecutive starts. He won't get an extra day of rest after throwing 128 pitches Saturday, so his pitch count might have to be watched closely.

Indians: Sowers experienced the shortest outing of his four-year career in his last start, giving up six runs in just one-plus innings. In the first inning, he surrendered six consecutive hits, including a solo home run. He proceeded to load the bases in the second without recording an out before giving way to the Tribe's bullpen. Sowers received a no-decision in his last start against Detroit, giving up two runs on six hits and four walks while fanning three through six frames.
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Post#2 » by Liqourish » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:33 pm

We need a good showing. Hopefully our guys can get back into a rhythm. We have our three best pitchers out there. Let's take care of business.
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Post#3 » by RustInPeace » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:31 pm

We should let Verlander rest another day, just in time for the Minnesota series opener. These high pitch counts are REALLY worrying me.
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Post#4 » by Liqourish » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:59 pm

^ He'll be fine. If the rotation holds up, he'll be pitching the end of the last Minnesota series which could be do or die for us. Pitch counts should only really matter with young guys or guys coming back from injuries. If arms are strong and pitchers are pitching well, let them stay out there. Players, Managers, fans are too engaged with pitch counts. They don't do pitch counts when they practice, they don't do pitch counts when they pitch bull pens, they don't so pitch counts when they warm up. Their arms can take 20-30 more pitches without much harm.
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Post#5 » by ElectricMayhem » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:40 am

Hopefully playing against the team playing the worst in baseball can help us get our groove back. The Indians are just awful.
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Post#6 » by ajaX82 » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:43 pm

Edwin finally showed up. and not a moment too late. whew
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Post#7 » by ajaX82 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:36 am

With the Twins winning again, another big win for us. I think the White Sux have to be statistically out of it now dont they?
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Post#8 » by TSE » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:55 am

They can still make it. They need to win 9 in a row and get some help. Six of those 9 are against the Tigers, so that leaves only 3 other games for the Tigers to play if we assume the White Sox run the table.
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Post#9 » by Liqourish » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:29 pm

Sox are out, they can't even sniff 9 wins right now. They screwed up going after an injured Peavy and giving away Thome for nothing. Don't know what the hell they were thinking.

Twins are statistically still in it, but they would need to sweep the four game series against us and not drop another one. Even if the Tigers split the 4 game Twin series.... Twins gain no ground and cut 4 games off the "Magic number". I don't see the Twins winning every game from here on out. I just don't. Especially when the 4 games are going to be in Comerica Park where the Tigers have been lights out.

Verlander on the mound tonight. Twinkies have the night off. Get a win and drop Twinkies 3 games back with a "magic number" of 8.
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Post#10 » by TSE » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:47 pm

Nobody is arguing that the White Sox have a remote shot, they have had a terrible longshot for a while. But they still CAN make it. If they had 100 tries in a situation like this they would likely fail all of them since their odds are still low, but you can't rule somebody out just cause you don't think they can do it when technically they CAN do it, even though the likelihood is extremely low.

Also, the Twins do not at all need to sweep the series with us. In fact it is possible for us to sweep the series against them and still not make it. If we lose every other game and they win every other game and we sweep that 4 game series, then they just made the playoffs despite losing all 4 of those!
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Post#11 » by Liqourish » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:18 pm

Actually no. If they win 6 of their last 10, but lose the four against us. And We lose 7 of our last 11, except for the 4 against Minnesota. They teams will end up with identical records and would play a one game tiebreaker, most likely in Comerica Park since that would have been the last field they competed against.

So we'd have to lose 8 of 12, while the Twinkies win 7 of 11 in order for them to make the playoffs. Tigers will not lose 8 games especially when 7 games of those are at Comerica Park where the Tigers are 48-26.

Like I said, statistically, they are still in it, but they won't catch us, especially if they don't sweep the Tigers, which they won't.
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Post#12 » by TSE » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:31 pm

Oh my bad, just a matter of semantics, we were talking about the Twins being eliminated, and I was basically trying to say that they could lose all 4 to us and still not be eliminated. To me, playing in the tiebreaker game is like playing in the playoffs because the regular season is over. It's kind of like the 65th team in the NCAA having to play the pre-emptive round.

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