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Closer Watch '07

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:07 pm
by BigBallingMIA
Why do we keep going back to this POS, Julio? He's more erratic than LOOPER.

Leave Gregg, Leave Owens, leave anyone.

Waste of money and a pitching prospect in Petit.

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:20 pm
by heatwillbeback
yea, we should cut our losses

it really sucks that Beinfest is pretty much forcing our manager to have his guy save...he cost us a game already, and almost cost us this one. Plus the one non save opportunity he had it turned into a multi run inning

he sucks.

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:21 pm
by BigBallingMIA
Gardner with his first career save

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:21 pm
by Lane1974
^^ at 32

he and Jason Wood are great stories

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:24 pm
by BigBallingMIA
Who are the candidates for this job?

Gardner
Tankersly
Carlos Martinez (what happened to this kid? He had elbow inflammation last year and had to shut it down but haven't heard any updates. Sick stuff)

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:25 pm
by heatwillbeback
BigBallingMIA wrote:Who are the candidates for this job?

Gardner
Tankersly
Carlos Martinez (what happened to this kid? He had elbow inflammation last year and had to shut it down but haven't heard any updates. Sick stuff)


im pretty sure Martinez had Tommy John surgery last season....

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:26 pm
by Lane1974
I think Martinez had Tommy John surgery, he's out this year
also Kensing

Owens is my #1 choice, he has looked great
Gardner has the age and minor league experience
Lindstrom throws the hardest

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:27 pm
by Lane1974
I still think Julio can still come back this year, he has good stuff, just no confidence right now

let him get some familiarity with the team and surroundings, but let him get comfy in the 7th not throw him in the fire for now

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:29 pm
by BigBallingMIA
From Wikipedia

Mart

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:32 pm
by BigBallingMIA
Lane1974 wrote:I still think Julio can still come back this year, he has good stuff, just no confidence right now

let him get some familiarity with the team and surroundings, but let him get comfy in the 7th not throw him in the fire for now

He has no control; he can't throw strikes. I don't see his pitching ways changing.

I rather not play him but his contract suggests otherwise so the 7th is fine.

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 8:35 pm
by Lane1974
yeah but his career #s suggest otherwise, he has a high K/IP ratio

he needs to trust his stuff and his catcher - he shook off Trainor several times and the next pitch was smacked

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 11:13 pm
by Flash3
So what are your thoughts of T Hutton when he said: "I don't care what Larry Beinfest or Freddi Gonzalez think Julio can be, if he can't throw strikes, then they need to get one of the other strong arms a chance"

A bit too premature?

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 11:29 pm
by Lane1974
it was probably the strongest statement I can remember Tommy ever saying in 10 years, that was the surprising part

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 11:33 pm
by Flash3
Yeah, and he said it with such enthusiasm too.

JULIO IS HORRIBLE !

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2007 11:39 pm
by NBAMAN4LIFE
This guy is horrible. He looks like he has no confidence at all. I just hope management can swallow their egos and admit maybe he isnt the option. I really like Owens and Tankersly as our setup man and closer positions. But Julio has been awful. [/i]

Posted: Mon Apr 9, 2007 4:21 am
by Bow2Yao11
They should give Owens a chance.

Posted: Mon Apr 9, 2007 2:29 pm
by Lane1974
I don't like Tank as a closer -- for me, if you're going to have a lefty closer, he better throw smoke like Billy Wagner or John Rocker

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:05 pm
by pimpstyl
Owens will get his chance...if it isn't right now, it will come soon...

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:17 pm
by Bow2Yao11
How about Lindstrom? He has a great arm and can top 100 MPH easily.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:41 pm
by BigBallingMIA
pimpstyl wrote:Owens will get his chance...if it isn't right now, it will come soon...

He got a chance yesterday and did well--the job is up for grabs.

Meanwhile our bullpen is looking spectacular.