time to blow up?

rocketsfan94 · Post #1 » by **rocketsfan94** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:04 pm

is it time to blow this team up and start over?

Post #2 » by **Vator** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:15 pm

Sure...why not? The season is over anyways so might as well get some young guys infused back into the system.

rocketsfan94 · Post #3 » by **rocketsfan94** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:03 pm

vator wrote:Sure...why not? The season is over anyways so might as well get some young guys infused back into the system.

the only guy that should be kept is pence and oswalt if its possable other than that everyone else is/should be on the tradeing block.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #4 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:59 pm

rocketsfan94 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

the only guy that should be kept is pence and oswalt if its possable other than that everyone else is/should be on the tradeing block.

I disagree.

IMO the untouchables are:

Oswalt
Berkman
Pence
Lee(and only partially, if we can get some good talent in return I am all for trading him)

Everyone else can go, but I'd like us to keep Loretta/Lamb as utility guys, and Jennings can be a solid addition for our rotation as well as Sampson, so those guys are keepers IMO but not untouchable.

The rest, blow it up, get whatever you can in return that can help us win games, bring up our best AAA guys and give them a shot and see what gems are there because I am sure we have a few.

Let Biggio retire(please, I love you but it's time to go out after this year), let Ausmus go, blow up the bullpen and totally rebuild it, and so on...

rocketsfan94 · Post #5 » by **rocketsfan94** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:28 am

RaoulDuke79 wrote:
rocketsfan94 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

the only guy that should be kept is pence and oswalt if its possable other than that everyone else is/should be on the tradeing block.

I disagree.

IMO the untouchables are:

Oswalt
Berkman
Pence
Lee(and only partially, if we can get some good talent in return I am all for trading him)

Everyone else can go, but I'd like us to keep Loretta/Lamb as utility guys, and Jennings can be a solid addition for our rotation as well as Sampson, so those guys are keepers IMO but not untouchable.

The rest, blow it up, get whatever you can in return that can help us win games, bring up our best AAA guys and give them a shot and see what gems are there because I am sure we have a few.

Let Biggio retire(please, I love you but it's time to go out after this year), let Ausmus go, blow up the bullpen and totally rebuild it, and so on...

i would agree with u on pence and oswalt being the untouchables but we could get some really good starters for berkman. dont get me wrong im a huge astros fan so. as far as lee goes i think we should keep him b/c not only is he a power guy but also an rbi guy he could take the place of berkman. and as far as pence goes he should never be trades this guy is the real thing.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #6 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:05 am

If they trade Fat Elvis I'd be very, VERY upset.

Post #7 » by **Vator** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:14 am

I think that I heard on the radio last week that Oswalt, Berkman, and Lee have no trade clauses so they would all have to agree to a trade.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #8 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:17 am

vator wrote:I think that I heard on the radio last week that Oswalt, Berkman, and Lee have no trade clauses so they would all have to agree to a trade.

As it should be. I mean, Lee is a loafer who is only good for hitting but atleast he produces at the plate, but Berkman and Oswalt are Astros for life damnit...

..so is Pence. Trade them and lose my love for you Astros organization!

rocketsfan94 · Post #9 » by **rocketsfan94** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:05 am

RaoulDuke79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

As it should be. I mean, Lee is a loafer who is only good for hitting but atleast he produces at the plate, but Berkman and Oswalt are Astros for life damnit...

..so is Pence. Trade them and lose my love for you Astros organization!

agree on the oswalt and pence being astros for life 100% as far was berkman goes i guess he would be an untouchable seeing as how he is our 1st base and also that hes one of our best hitters.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #10 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:09 am

rocketsfan94 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

agree on the oswalt and pence being astros for life 100% as far was berkman goes i guess he would be an untouchable seeing as how he is our 1st base and also that hes one of our best hitters.

He'd bring some good players in a trade no doubt, but the guy has come up with the Astros, he's a Texas boy, and he's basically our best player(yea he's had an off season but the guy is a stud).

rocketsfan94 · Post #11 » by **rocketsfan94** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:54 am

RaoulDuke79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He'd bring some good players in a trade no doubt, but the guy has come up with the Astros, he's a Texas boy, and he's basically our best player(yea he's had an off season but the guy is a stud).

agree i think i lost my mind there for a couple of hours lol. what players would/should we try and get if they decide to blow up the team?

Post #12 » by **Vator** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:10 pm

I just wish that Lance was more dedicated to honing is body. Imagine how good he would be if he actually worked harder.

rocketsfan94 · Post #13 » by **rocketsfan94** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:31 pm

vator wrote:I just wish that Lance was more dedicated to honing is body. Imagine how good he would be if he actually worked harder.

if he honed his body he would kill more than he does now.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #14 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:15 pm

vator wrote:I just wish that Lance was more dedicated to honing is body. Imagine how good he would be if he actually worked harder.

He hones that body of his with the power of twinkies, isn't that enough for you? WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

I agree though yea, he needs to do more cardio and stop lugging around those bitch tits.

Post #15 » by **Vator** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:44 pm

RaoulDuke79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He hones that body of his with the power of twinkies, isn't that enough for you? WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

I agree though yea, he needs to do more cardio and stop lugging around those bitch tits.

I don't know...maybe he could mix in a sit up here and there. :lol:

Baller 24 · Post #16 » by **Baller 24** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:42 pm

Well if Papura isn't gone then the likes of Everett, Ensberg, Ausmus and the bullpen will never be gone. I think Tim doesn't want to get rid of them because of the success he had his first year, but it was only in the playoffs. This sucks LETS JUST LET MOREY HANDLE THE ASTROS TOO!!!!!!

MOREY FOR GM!!!!

Post #17 » by **Vator** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:09 pm

nsballer07 wrote:

MOREY FOR GM!!!!

Hell yeah! :clap:

It's all about "Moneyball" baby!

rocketsfan94 · Post #18 » by **rocketsfan94** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:01 pm

vator wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hell yeah! It's all about "Moneyball" baby!

i agree he would be a better job then who we have now

Baller 24 · Post #19 » by **Baller 24** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:12 pm

Morey would prolly pull some **** off where he would land A rod here for Adam Everett.

rocketworld · Post #20 » by **rocketworld** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:45 am

i think this process is quitely in process...look at our roster compared to our roster 2 years ago, even last year...its quite different