Quake Griffin wrote:If this team wants to move on from Hanley (we're unsure at this point), the QO for Hanley can be troublesome. It makes him less desirable for another team and has him tied to our franchise for another year. Donnie said he thought the contract situation affected Hanley this year. Well, if he takes the QO, we're just adding on another year of that.
I would not mind to have Hanley come to play for us one more year at around 15 mil. honestly even if he is bothered by his contract situation, it would be a bargain. it buys us time for Seager to be ripe.
Quake Griffin wrote:If Russell gets the QO from Pitt (it looks like he will), then pass on him. He good but he aint hat good.
Russ Martin's career stats year by year fluctuates so dramatically it gives no confidence he can be worth even just a half of what he is asking. on top of that if we have to lose a first rounder? I think it's a no brainer.
I have been thinking on the plane ride back home, that what if we trade Haren to Angels for Hank Conger? they want a starter, and we need a catcher while dumping some salary? I think its a win win situation for both franchises. it also opens a room for that big name FA signing and still have a room for Zack Lee. I love Hank. he is a great defensive catcher, a first rounder, given enough consistent at bats, he has power and a switch hitter. I think he can be an Ideal 7 hole batsman ahead of Erisbel if it comes down to Arruebarruena being our everyday shortstop. he is still only 26. Neither AJ nor Paul La Duca sniffed the majors until 30. this kid has been playing in the majors as a backup catcher for years already and itching for that chance to be a starter. I think he is a stud waiting to happen.
Quake Griffin wrote:I think Carl had a better year than Andre....plays a good LF and steals bases. The only reason not to take him is the stigma around him. But we've seen the Jays move Vernon Wells ENTIRE DEAL. I think Crawford at $10 million (if we eat half) is WELL WORTH the value for him as a LF....and packaging him with a Guerrero will yield us back better returns than Andre and it provides us SOME salary relief.
of course, but Andre didn't get any consistent at bats like Carl either. even though Carl did hit .300 BA his OBP and SLG were pitiful. having said that, Carl did post 2.4 WAR and even though that is not near his peak, I would gladly accept that from a perceived over the hill player. frankly, I want to trade both Andre and Carl, but if i can only trade one, it would be Andre, no doubt.
Quake Griffin wrote:I'm interested in signing a starter. I think it would be cowardly to have the Giants, Cards and Royals scare us into putting our checkbooks away....but there's a couple reasons why:
1) This is the 2nd year in a row we've felt the need to throw Kershaw on 3 days rest in the division series. That's pathetic to me. No other team this year panicked in that fashion.
that wasn't because our team didn't have a 4th starter, it was because Donnie is a chicken ****. Dan Haren posted 1.177 WHIP in 2014 for the dodgers. that is better than vast majority of the starters in all baseball. his problem was the long balls. he gave up too many home runs. 1.3 Hrs per 9 innings to be precise. in a single playoff game however, I would take those odds anytime. Dan Haren pitches better in Sept/Oct than his career average, he pitched better in StL's Busch Stadium than 2/3 of the major league ball parks, and have a better record in playoffs than Clayton Kershaw. Donnie is to blame, not our 4th starter.
Quake Griffin wrote:2) Protection for Greinke opting out next offseason.
Lester wont run us a draft pick like Shields will...but Shields will probably have a friendlier deal. Lester is probably going to ask for 7 years or something.....whatever the case. we need to sign one because there is no call up that's going to fill in the role.
I love Lester too, it's just that If I had a choice of equal value pitchers I wanted a righty because I want another Ace right arm to pair up with Greinke to mirror our two lefties in Clay and Ryu. that would be an awesome 1-2-3-4, wouldn't it? and i would make Greinke the #1 so it would go like Greinke - Kershaw - Shields - Ryu.
CC would have been our 5th starter with my early idea so it didn't matter to me if he was a righty or lefty but the 2 R 2 L Aces would be a dominant force.
having said that, if we go after Lester, I would think it would look more like Kershaw -Greinke - Lester - Ryu. in this configuration, we would still be dominant but Ryu could have a small impact from teams who already have seen Lester's left arm to go right back the next day against another left arm with similar repertoire. but I think the impact would not be very drastic.
Quake Griffin wrote:if we get a 4th starter that's Lester level and work on our bullpen (i like the Miller idea), I'd feel COMPLETELY fine walking away from Hanley.
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pass on CC Ned. It looks like the years of having thanksgiving dinner every night in his home caught up with him. Not interested in trading for a fat guy who needed knee surgery and might have to have micro fracture surgery o that same knee.
I think the Yanks are dying to get rid of CC and we are dying to get rid of some OFers. CC in NLW could bring his stats down to where it is decent for a 5th starter but yes his contract is still an albatross and it wouldn't cut down on our overall salary issue. but I will tell you what. CC as our 5th starter will have much better impact thus more bang for the buck than Ethier as our 5th outfielder rotting away on the bench.
another and probably the bigger impact of trading for CC is to hold a rotation spot for Urias who will be ready when CC's deal is over and ready to be bought out. i dont want to block Julio's path because i see a lefty Pedro in him.
ehhhhh f it.
