2015 season dodgers game thread

Quake Griffin · Post #261 » by **Quake Griffin** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:55 pm

I agree with everything she said except the Hamels thing. That would fly in direct contrast to how Stan Kasten said he wanted to build this team and the fans are already invested in seeing both of our prospects come up.

If she wants to hold their feet to the fire about their bullpen acquisitions then by all means. Be my guest.

lol, she's so right on the $300 million narrative.
Everybody knew dollar for dollar when the Dodgers started spending, they were taking on some **** contracts to get (A-Gon and then Peraza and Wood etc. etc.) better/ deeper. Why people try to act like all $300 million of it is on the field creating baseball's version of the Monstars? I haven't the slightest clue.

Ranma · Post #262 » by **Ranma** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:46 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:I agree with everything she said except the Hamels thing. That would fly in direct contrast to how Stan Kasten said he wanted to build this team and the fans are already invested in seeing both of our prospects come up.

If she wants to hold their feet to the fire about their bullpen acquisitions then by all means. Be my guest.

lol, she's so right on the $300 million narrative.
Everybody knew dollar for dollar when the Dodgers started spending, they were taking on some **** contracts to get (A-Gon and then Peraza and Wood etc. etc.) better/ deeper. Why people try to act like all $300 million of it is on the field creating baseball's version of the Monstars? I haven't the slightest clue.

I totally concur. I wouldn't be opposed to having Hamels on the team, but not at the price it would take in prospects. Plus, I'd rather pursue Price and Cueto as unrestricted free agents. I'm not too critical of our relief pitching pursuits outside of not going after Jake McGee, but he just went down with a knee injury. I feel we have plenty of bullpen arms, whether on the big league roster or in the minors, to get by; it's more a matter for Mattingly and staff to prepare and use them properly.

I totally agree about the payroll flack. We're trying to fast-track a rebuild in the aftermath of McCourt ownership and Colletti stewardship. The Dodgers and their fans have suffered a lot and for a long time thanks to Bud Selig allowing the franchise to be sold to the carpetbagger, so there's no need to apologize on behalf of the organization for investing the resources it takes to reward Dodger fans for their faith and loyalty in this manner. It's not like we're the Steinbrenner Yankees contantly throwing good money after bad. This is our first foray into it and it's a tempory measure at that. Haters can suck it.

The concern I have now is whether Seager will be called up and if he'll be effective should he be added to the major league roster. He's currently in a slump during one of his adjustment periods, I guess. Urias looks like a promising option for the postseason, but will he be ready?

I've run out of patience with this ballclub. Our hitters have to hit and our pitchers have to pitch. If they can't do it now, I'm inclined to clean house with Mattingly the first to go after this season. No excuses. Things have to get done, especially with two Cy Young worthy pitchers leading your staff.

Ranma · Post #263 » by **Ranma** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:58 am

Geez...Mattingly sure knows how to go through our bullpen depth in a couple of innings. After Wood went 5 and 2/3 innings, he was pulled in the 6th with a runner on 1B after throwing just 88 pitches. Hatcher, Howell, Nicasio, and now Avilan have been used at this point in 8th inning with 2 outs and the bases loaded. At least Avilan gets his man with Kenley poised to close out the 9th.

Edit: I keep miscounting the innings. This time I added an inning to Wood's workload before correcting it. In any case, it still seemed early for Mattingly to pull the kid.

Neddy · Post #264 » by **Neddy** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:35 am

Ranma wrote:Geez...Mattingly sure knows how to go through our bullpen depth in a couple of innings. After Wood went 5 and 2/3 innings, he was pulled in the 6th with a runner on 1B after throwing just 88 pitches. Hatcher, Howell, Nicasio, and now Avilan have been used at this point in 8th inning with 2 outs and the bases loaded. At least Avilan gets his man with Kenley poised to close out the 9th.

Edit: I keep miscounting the innings. This time I added an inning to Wood's workload before correcting it. In any case, it still seemed early for Mattingly to pull the kid.

Mattingly has no idea how to evaluate or how to use the bullpen correctly. whether this team wins it all or fall flat on its nose early October, Donny Potato has no business leading this team.

Quake Griffin · Post #265 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:39 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/62143/trying-to-figure-out-don-mattingly-and-the-dodgers

Donnie being called out.

Ranma · Post #266 » by **Ranma** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:12 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/62143/trying-to-figure-out-don-mattingly-and-the-dodgers

Donnie being called out.

Neddy wrote:BTW, despite giving him a praise for one good pitching change, Mattingly's handle on the pen is still maddening yet again for another season. JP Howell, statistically is one of the top ten setup man in the game and yet Donny Potato has used him for 34 innings this year, and is well on his way for the fewest innings pitched in his career minus one and a half season when he was hurt.

I have to say, Neddy, I'm liking "Donny Potato" more and more. You're a genius.

Neddy · Post #267 » by **Neddy** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:20 am

LOL that is a great picture man, they should give that away for Mattingly bobblehead night!!!!

and I merely coined the term and started calling it and used it repeatedly but it was quake who first called Mattingly Potato.

Ranma · Post #268 » by **Ranma** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:37 am

Neddy wrote:LOL that is a great picture man, they should give that away for Mattingly bobblehead night!!!!

and I merely coined the term and started calling it and used it repeatedly but it was quake who first called Mattingly Potato.

My apologies to Quake. An inspired collaboration. :usa:

Ranma · Post #269 » by **Ranma** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:14 am

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Quake Griffin · Post #270 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:28 pm

that just means Donnie is going to give him a day off soon.

You know…what every 24 year old needs.

Quake Griffin · Post #271 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:55 pm

WOuld be great if we can get the win here today without throwing Kenley.

He hasnt been that sharp lately and I don't want to work him 3 days in a row ahead of 2 of the biggest series of the season.

Quake Griffin · Post #272 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:27 pm

Jim Johnson….PLEASE DONT BLOW THIS.

This could help our team immensely if you get these 3 outs and we get the sweep.

edit:

thank you for the clean inning Jimmy, with the help of Joc's defense because Jay Bruce squared that ball up.
we needed that.

now we have a host of injuries.
A-Gon hit a ball off his knee.
Puig's hammy is lame again.
Grandal's shoulder has been bothering him.

The next 6 games are going to make or break this team.

Quake Griffin · Post #273 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:20 pm

Puig on the DL.

Peraza called up

Ranma · Post #274 » by **Ranma** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:33 am

I figured Puig would go on the DL but I'm actually glad that Peraza was called up in his stead. Peraza may primarily be a 2B or SS but he offers a right-handed batter that can be used in CF as well to break up our primary left-handed options in Ethier, Crawford, and Pederson. Obviously, ****, Guerrero, and Van Slyke are also right-handed options, but Peraza brings speed to his game along with Carl and Joc.

Utley may now be a diminished runner from the 23 stolen bases he had back in 2009, but his "triple" and advance to 3B off the wild pitch were integral to the Dodgers' scoring tonight. Having Ron Roenicke as the 3B coach may just be a coincidence but Utley's savvy and instincts in recognizing and immediately acting on the wild pitch was just an important baserunning element that has been missing from this ballclub.

Maybe Mattingly has the built-in excuse of not having enough capable baserunners and I don't want players handed roster spots just because of their speed, but when you've had Peraza, Puig, Pederson, and Crawford along with Davey Lopes as your baserunning coach, there should be more effort into incorporating speed into the game plan.

Quake Griffin · Post #275 » by **Quake Griffin** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:40 am

Love everything you said about Utley.

Can't focus on what his birth certificate says. Guy still has some wheels on him and his instincts on the base paths were critical tonight.

Ranma · Post #276 » by **Ranma** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:45 am

Quake Griffin wrote:Love everything you said about Utley.

Can't focus on what his birth certificate says. Guy still has some wheels on him and his instincts on the base paths were critical tonight.

I may still have concerns about Utley's production, but at the risk of sounding like a Colletti disciple, I absolutely love his veteran leadership and moxie. Dare I say it, I even find myself beginning to want him on the roster for next season possibly at 3B, but I need to see sustained production from him. Please have enough left in the tank to bring us plenty more, Chase. You're exactly the heart-and-soul type of player we need on this team.

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Quake Griffin · Post #277 » by **Quake Griffin** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:31 pm

Looks like Donnie just said Howie's progress has stalled and we're at the 2 week mark.

I'm in on the Utley deal.
.345 OBP since being here. Fangraphs wont let me check his hard contact rate with the Dodgers, only for the entire 2015 year altogether. But IMO, he's been pretty unlucky here in terms of BA. I think that will normalize some grounders will have eyes and some line drives will find gaps coming up soon.

Utley at 3rd?
That's Seager's job my man.

Ranma · Post #278 » by **Ranma** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:55 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Utley at 3rd?
That's Seager's job my man.

I actually think that is Seager's best position, but the feeling I get is that the Dodgers will try him out initially at SS once he gets regular playing time as Rollins' replacement. Utley would likely be the favorite at 2B as Kendrick's replacement, but if Howie comes back, Chase would make sense at 3B even if he hasn't really played there. That is, of course, assuming Utley's production justifies such considertion.

Also, Peraza is a dark horse candidate in the infield either at 2B or SS. I really want to see Peraza in the lineup with his speed, but he needs to fine-tune his approach at the plate by incorporating more discipline in drawing walks. His arm, however decent, is not a cannon so I would prefer him at 2B, but again, Howie or Utley would likely get priority consideration there.

Neddy · Post #279 » by **Neddy** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:57 pm

Im gonna take the unpopular stand and say I do not want Utley on my team either now or in the future. he does not belong in NL anymore with his **** defense. I think you guys are fogetting his botch job on a simple flyball that ended up costing 4 runs and nearly lost the game when Brett Anderson was brilliant on his last start. if we like his leadership skills, we can hire him as a coach when he retires, which really shouldn't be too far. I get that his BA has suffered by bad luck and I get that he has been hot since the all star, but now I have seen him play defense in my dodger blue, he reminds me too much of Jeff Kent and Hanley Ramirez and they produced offensively far better than Chase.

if we want **** defensive infielder who can swing the bat, we should just give Alex more starts. glad to see Peraza back and I hope he isn't just sitting during games. If Donny Potato wants a team that can play defense while giving a rest for ailing knees of Justin, we outta start **** at 3rd, Peraza on second, and plug Joc back in the line up and let him take all the walks he wants.

Neddy · Post #280 » by **Neddy** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Ranma wrote:Also, Peraza is a dark horse candidate in the infield either at 2B or SS. I really want to see Peraza in the lineup with his speed, but he needs to fine-tune his approach at the plate by incorporating more discipline in drawing walks. His arm, however decent, is not a cannon so I would prefer him at 2B, but again, Howie or Utley would likely get priority consideration there.

Gonzo on first, Howie on second, Peraza on SS, and Seager on 3rd. Turner with his bad knees should be the ultimate utility guy who plays 3-4 days a week and that leaves one more spot left for ****. this is how i see our infield next year.

but knowing Mattingly, Turner will play everyday and his wheels will fall off before the playoffs, Peraza will start in AAA, Seager will get Joc Pederson treatment on the first sign of disappointment from Donny dumbdumb.

and one more thing I wanna add, all these supposed drama in the clubhouse and how Donny **** is a great leader by managing egos, I beg the differ. a true leader like Tommy will make sure he is the loudest one and never afraid to get in anyone's face, and keep his clubhouse full of motivation. Don is a glorified clubhouse baby sitter. he is a bench coach at best, posing himself as a big league manager and he is so out of his league.