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Post#361 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:24 pm

man... it was a slider outside, but missed the location by 6 inches and hung over the plate. lucky to have bases loaded only.
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Post#362 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:24 pm

attack Scott in the outer half... good job! 0-1 count now. down and away again baby!
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Post#363 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:25 pm

Jeez that was a jam shot in the inner half on a fastball. lucky he didn't give up a grand slam... 0-2, no reason to throw a strike
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Post#364 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:26 pm

chin music.. now down and away. keep it off the plate and under the knees...
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Post#365 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:28 pm

wow... just wow... with 1-2 pitch count, Austin calls a high inside and Maeda just hits Scott and walks in a run... his first 9 outs were fantastic. the 4th is about to do Maeda in.

remember, a HR still only ties. just throw the pitches you know you can locate, and trust your SLIDER!
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Post#366 » by Neddy » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:31 pm

WHAT A PLAY BY PUIG he saved more than a run with that great catch then throwing home where even the great Billy Hamilton couldn't come home from 3rd. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post#367 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:18 pm

Setup man please.
Ranma, don't care where we find it. I hope we find it internally.

SET UP MAN!


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Post#368 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:35 am

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0


Found it interesting Kershaw is not leading in fWAR like he typically he does. Not only that, he's not even close to being the top guy.
ERA significantly above his FIP by almost a full point.
K/9 slightly down.
HR/9 significantly up
HR/FB rate significantly up.


Ranma said he seemed human the other day. I tended to agree with him. Inspite of the solid ERA, I don't think he's as good as he has been in the past.
Is it the back? Is it the stuff? Is it Yasmani calling the pitches?
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Post#369 » by Neddy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:30 am

Quake Griffin wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0


Found it interesting Kershaw is not leading in fWAR like he typically he does. Not only that, he's not even close to being the top guy.
ERA significantly above his FIP by almost a full point.
K/9 slightly down.
HR/9 significantly up
HR/FB rate significantly up.


Ranma said he seemed human the other day. I tended to agree with him. Inspite of the solid ERA, I don't think he's as good as he has been in the past.
Is it the back? Is it the stuff? Is it Yasmani calling the pitches?


I think your expectation is too high. baseball isn't like basketball, where the best players play the best most of the times. Clayton is still the top 6 pitcher in baseball in terms of fWAR and that means a ton with still only 70 games into the season. Chris Sale may still end up being the best WAR pitcher in the league, but we are 6 games ahead of them while having a bunch of our regulars slumping. Kershaw still leads the league in W. he is the 4th in terms of total innings pitched. Clayton is leading the league with 89% LOB in the entire baseball. his overall stats may not indicate the same dominance, but he is getting out of trouble at the best rate in baseball and he is due. but even while struggling, he has 9 Ws in 70 games. I know, I know.. I have been the vocal protester of conventional stats and here I am, prodding conventional stats. but what I mean is that despite his woes, he is still keeping things in excellent shape in terms of the outcome. and he is only going to get better.

I wouldn't worry about his stuff. it is still the same. I wish he can master a change up tho, with even an average change up, he would be the best of all time without a peer.
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Post#370 » by Neddy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:41 am

one more thing, according to the fangraphs, we are the only team who rank as a team, in top 5 in all 3 categories of batting (5th), pitching, (#1), and fielding(#4). no other team comes anywhere near.

and trust me, we haven't even started to fire all cylinders.

as Quake said, we make a trade for a setup man, and perhaps a professional pinch hitter who can bring the memories of Olmedo Saenz, we are gonna be invincible come playoffs.
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Post#371 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:26 am

Neddy wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0


Found it interesting Kershaw is not leading in fWAR like he typically he does. Not only that, he's not even close to being the top guy.
ERA significantly above his FIP by almost a full point.
K/9 slightly down.
HR/9 significantly up
HR/FB rate significantly up.


Ranma said he seemed human the other day. I tended to agree with him. Inspite of the solid ERA, I don't think he's as good as he has been in the past.
Is it the back? Is it the stuff? Is it Yasmani calling the pitches?


I think your expectation is too high. baseball isn't like basketball, where the best players play the best most of the times. Clayton is still the top 6 pitcher in baseball in terms of fWAR and that means a ton with still only 70 games into the season. Chris Sale may still end up being the best WAR pitcher in the league, but we are 6 games ahead of them while having a bunch of our regulars slumping. Kershaw still leads the league in W. he is the 4th in terms of total innings pitched. Clayton is leading the league with 89% LOB in the entire baseball. his overall stats may not indicate the same dominance, but he is getting out of trouble at the best rate in baseball and he is due. but even while struggling, he has 9 Ws in 70 games. I know, I know.. I have been the vocal protester of conventional stats and here I am, prodding conventional stats. but what I mean is that despite his woes, he is still keeping things in excellent shape in terms of the outcome. and he is only going to get better.

I wouldn't worry about his stuff. it is still the same. I wish he can master a change up tho, with even an average change up, he would be the best of all time without a peer.

It would mean everything tbh.

Possibly solve his playoff woes?
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Post#372 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:32 am

Brock Stewart recalled and Ravin sent down.

Finally. Hated that he started this year off with an injury.

Ranma, he's one of our internal options that I hope catches lightning in a bottle and can eventually be a 7th or 8th inning guy.


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Internal Relief 

Post#373 » by Ranma » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:26 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Brock Stewart recalled and Ravin sent down.

Finally. Hated that he started this year off with an injury.

Ranma, he's one of our internal options that I hope catches lightning in a bottle and can eventually be a 7th or 8th inning guy.


I see Stewart as a pitcher who will eventually compete for one of the starting rotation spots, but given that he's coming off his injury rehab from the minors, he should be a good relief arm to have as he builds up innings in getting back into the swing of things.

As I mentioned in the prospects thread, I think Wilmer Font will be a nice weapon in the bullpen once the roster expands later on in the season. Walker Buehler could also be in consideration to give him some exposure towards his development while helping us. Josh Sborz should have been ready by now for a relief role but his progress seems to have stalled a la Chris Reed when we've been trying to make him a starter.

Also, we still have Brandon Morrow, who has been effective in limited use but was optioned to the minors earlier this month. I'm actually surprised we didn't call him back up at this point.
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Post#374 » by Ranma » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:13 pm

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Kershaw Peaking in 2nd Half? (Slow Start and Fading Ending) 

Post#375 » by Ranma » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:46 pm

I wholewheartedly agree with you both about Kershaw incorporating an effective changeup into his repertoire.
He'd be omnipotent with that pitch against MLB batters. I've been advocating for that to happen for years.


Quake Griffin wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0


Found it interesting Kershaw is not leading in fWAR like he typically he does. Not only that, he's not even close to being the top guy.
ERA significantly above his FIP by almost a full point.
K/9 slightly down.
HR/9 significantly up
HR/FB rate significantly up.


Ranma said he seemed human the other day. I tended to agree with him. Inspite of the solid ERA, I don't think he's as good as he has been in the past.
Is it the back? Is it the stuff? Is it Yasmani calling the pitches?

Neddy wrote:I think your expectation is too high. baseball isn't like basketball, where the best players play the best most of the times. Clayton is still the top 6 pitcher in baseball in terms of fWAR and that means a ton with still only 70 games into the season. Chris Sale may still end up being the best WAR pitcher in the league, but we are 6 games ahead of them while having a bunch of our regulars slumping. Kershaw still leads the league in W. he is the 4th in terms of total innings pitched. Clayton is leading the league with 89% LOB in the entire baseball. his overall stats may not indicate the same dominance, but he is getting out of trouble at the best rate in baseball and he is due. but even while struggling, he has 9 Ws in 70 games. I know, I know.. I have been the vocal protester of conventional stats and here I am, prodding conventional stats. but what I mean is that despite his woes, he is still keeping things in excellent shape in terms of the outcome. and he is only going to get better.

I wouldn't worry about his stuff. it is still the same. I wish he can master a change up tho, with even an average change up, he would be the best of all time without a peer.


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Post#376 » by Quake Griffin » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:23 am

Tonight reminds me of the night in 2015 when the Mets almost dealt Zack Wheeler in a package for Carlos Gomez.

I said then, we should pounce on that and get his arm in our org.

I've seen him struggle some this year. I still like this guy....and we've opened up with 3 straight hits against him.

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Post#377 » by Quake Griffin » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:26 am

Yeah I like Wheeler.

But I like Cody better.

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Post#378 » by Quake Griffin » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:41 am

Are you guys a fan of Kershaw's side arm fastball since Rich has been here?

Apparently he threw that way in HS.

Anywho. Looks like he just got a K throwing a curve out of the same slot


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Kershaw Mixing Things Up 

Post#379 » by Ranma » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:45 am

Quake Griffin wrote:Are you guys a fan of Kershaw's side arm fastball since Rich has been here?

Apparently he threw that way in HS.

Anywho. Looks like he just got a K throwing a curve out of the same slot


Without knowing if it poses extra risks to his arm, I actually like Kershaw changing his arm angles on some of his pitches as long as he doesn't rely on that arm slot for a single pitch and continues to use his normal delivery for his fastball and curveball as well. I just like throwing hitters off with a more unexpected movement, which is why I liked that he was taking after Rich Hill some last season.
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Still Prefer Puig Over Cespedes 

Post#380 » by Ranma » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:47 am

Yoenis Cespedes's non-chalant fielding approach to Clayton Kershaw's flyball hit is why I did not want to go after him in free agency. Maybe he's hurt but it did not look good to me, regardless.

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