2015/16 Offseason: More active than Shakira's hips

[Neddy]

How do we get rid of Alex Guerrero?

He's taking up roster space

only way out is to an AL team to sell him as a DH, but since his tanking job in the second half of last season, it will take giving up a prospect to sell him off as he has an automatic FA clause, making him a FA immediately the season after he is traded.

I don't think there is enough team out there who wants AG. I think it will take giving up a quality prospects to dump him and I dont think that is worth doing. I say keep him as our 25th man on the roster, he still has value as a pinch hitter and a back up body at many positions, although he would be a poor option at every position. knowing Turner's body may not hold up the entire season, it would not be the worst thing to have Alex Guerrero be our backup 3rd base for say, 40 games, then another 10 at LF, and give him 100 ABs as a pinch hitter.

[Quake Griffin]

Yikes at 40 games at 3B…and ANOTHER 10 in left.

Nah.
Kick **** to 3rd and Utley can come in at 2nd on those days Turner needs a day


Nothnx to that idea.

[Neddy]

that would really depend on what Chase has left in his tank offensively for one, and we actually did not get to see what Utley can do on 3rd base defensively. yeah he couldn't be too much worse than Alex at 3rd but Utley hmself is a big question mark and if he is gonna give us another 200/290/360 statline, AG is clearly the better option as our PH while keeping **** as our everyday 2nd baseman.

[Neddy]

I know the classic stereotype backup infielder is someone who can field, while leaving much to be desired in the batter's box, but I think Alex can change that paradigm if he can hit consistently, if given enough at bats with some normalcy, I think he can. as Yogi Berra once said, "third ain't so bad if nothing is hit to you"

[Neddy]

man I did not see this coming...

the Stone Buddah is a Cardinal.

[Ranma]

We'll see if we'll come to regret not looking into Oh for the set-up role, but I'm not fretting about losing out on him if the Dodgers' scouts deemed he wasn't worth the investment. Hopefully, the Cardinals' organization will be docked some draft choices in their involvement in the Astros hacking scandal.

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[Neddy]

We'll see if we'll come to regret not looking into Oh for the set-up role, but I'm not fretting about losing out on him if the Dodgers' scouts deemed he wasn't worth the investment. Hopefully, the Cardinals' organization will be docked some draft choices in their involvement of the Astros hacking scandal.

I found an article that says we offered him a contract back in 2014 before Oh ultimately signed with Hanshin Tigers. I suppose with the change in scouting department with our new FO, it's possible OH was de-valued by our scouts, but according to the same article I read, Oh did not want to go to a team where there have been other korean players have played for. just as he signed with Hanshin as the first KBO player ever to sign with the Tigers organization, he was seeking once again to be the first to sign with a major league team that never had a korean player before. there are no other major league team that have employeed korean ball players more than the dodgers, so that pretty much eliminated us from the day one. I can give the link but you will have to translate it first.

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[Ranma]

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[Quake Griffin]

So the pecking order is:

Friedman > Alex > Farhan

????


My only beef here is how long will AA stay? It's puzzling to me that he doesnt have another offer and I'm kind of wondering just when will he get another offer.

[Ranma]

I heard Anthopoulos received multiple offers to join other baseball organizations, though I don't think any were offers to be GM. He's said that he's not overly concerned with influence, money, or titles and that he likes many aspects of building a team. He stated that he was primarily concerned with having a good fit and joining an environment conducive to collaboration. The Dodgers' front office seems to fit the bill.

Of course, I also think he'll jump ship once a GM position becomes available, but I do think this landing spot allows him to wait and be selective in choosing a GM job with the right team and situation rather than just taking the 1st offer that comes along.

We'll see what the Dodgers say in their statement to the media, but despite the job title, I'm pretty sure he'll serve under Zaidi as his right-hand man similar to what Byrnes does for Friedman. Byrnes has a job title that seems to imply he's higher than Zaidi but I think Zaidi has more influence than Byrnes does.

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[Quake Griffin]

Joe Wieland is gone to the Mariners.

Wonder what they did here.

[Ranma]

Joe Wieland is gone to the Mariners.

Wonder what they did here.

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There's talk that the Rays and Cubs have been talking to each other towards swapping some of Tampa Bay's pitching for some of Chicago's hitting given their respective surpluses. Hey, if the Rays are open to dealing with their former GM and willing to offer Chris Archer and Jake McGee, the Dodgers can offer a big prospects package headlined by Jose De Leon. Friedman ironically acquired Archer from the Cubs for the Rays back in 2011.

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[Neddy]

So the pecking order is:

Friedman > Alex > Farhan

????


My only beef here is how long will AA stay? It's puzzling to me that he doesnt have another offer and I'm kind of wondering just when will he get another offer.

does it matter? I'm just happy to add another brilliant baseball mind to help us win now and win tomorrow and win next decade. we have a guy who has a phD in economics as our GM. we have a former wall street guy who made contenders out of lowly low Tampa Bay Rays the last 10 years as the COO, then have the reigning executive of the year as VP and other accomplished guys in the room to bounce ideas from. I have complete trust of this front office, although yeah leaving with all the family secret recipe would be troubling if any of these guys gets hired by division rivals. but if you think about it, isn't that the reason for Eric Byrnes getting hired here?

[Neddy]

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I want Crash Davis!!!!

[Neddy]

BTW, this might be something very obvious to others but the impact of Maeda to counter the loss of Greinke is 3.3 WAR which I think is rather easily obtainable if he stays healthy.

Kershaw is gonna be Kershaw, even if his WAR value goes down in 2016, that is something we have no way to adjust while keeping the same player anyway, so he is a wash.

Greinke had an abnormally lucky BABIP season which ended his value at 5.9 fWAR. his previous season was around mid 4 range, but for the sake of the argument, let's assume the unsustainable becomes sustainable and Zack was to give another 5.9 fWAR season in 2016.

Ryu never pitched in 2015, so he was a total loss. now he is back, and his 2014 fWAR was 3.8. say he comes back to do just that, 3.8.

Anderson is still Anderson, and Wood is still Wood.

that leaves Mike Bolsinger and his 1.2 fWAR in 2015.

so with Kershaw, Anderson, and Wood being the same players, it only leaves 2 rotational spot and Ryu's return and assumed fWAR leaves 5.9 fWAR of Greinke - Ryu's 2014 3.8 fWAR = 2.1 fWAR we are deficient, which leaves our 5th starter to gain 2.1 on top of Magic Mike's production of 1.2. that total is 3.3 fWAR an I am certain Maeda will get there.

of course, this is a simplification of not counting numerous starters that gave us one, two, or just a handful of starts and registered barely above the replacement value less than 1. but I assume 2016 won't be any different and some guys will be out time to time, thus the supplemental starters of AAA will become a wash in value.

so there it is, the goal of Maeda in 2016, fWAR of 3.3. that's it, folks. that is all it takes to replace Greinke. very doable.

[Ranma]

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[Quake Griffin]

Reading a bunch of Dodger fans say that Yaisel may be a move for Fernandez.
lol, the Marlins were in on him so it does make some sense.


Would be pretty funny if all this work was for Fernandez.
But being honest, even though I don't like the zipper on his elbow or that he'll be an FA when Kershaw can opt out, Fernandez is like on a short list of the best pitchers in baseball…I mean like top 5…it would make sense if these guys really were dedicating their offseason to getting him and pulled it off.

[Ranma]

Although Joe Wieland, Ronald Torreyes, and Tyler Olson all were not part of the long-term outlook for the Dodgers, I don't like that we're dumping value and getting negative return. Granted all three were either trade fodder or a waiver wire signing, but I'd like to think we could have gotten something more for Wieland and Torreyes. Rob Segedin was once a top-30 prospect for the Yankees in some publications but didn't seem to warrant much attention. Erick Mejia is still young and a highly efficient base-stealer, but it doesn't sound like he has exciting speed. Neither the player-to-be-named later or cash considerations from the Yankees sound promising.

I figured Wieland, in particular, could have been dealt to any of the teams desperate for pitching. While he may not have much upside, Wieland seems like a solid prospect as a 4th or 5th starter who is close to ready for that role. The Dodgers must have done their due diligence, but they had to clear Wieland's spot on the 40-man roster in order to fit in new signee Yaisel Sierra, so it comes off as a disappointing sacrifice.

Again, this doesn't set back the organization or anything; it just seems a little wasteful. The bright side is that we're so packed with depth that we have to offload quality in order to upgrade.

Chris Hatcher also settled instead of going through with arbitration while the Dodgers just signed former Braves top prospect Jordan Schafer. Schafer is interesting in that he possesses speed but he fell out of favor in Atlanta after being suspended 50 games in 2008 for HGH use. He was also packaged in a trade for Atlanta to acquire Michael Bourn in 2011.

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[Quake Griffin]

You have any idea why it's infielders we've dealt for like this?????

Mejia is young and Segedin…not that young.
I truly don't get it.

[Quake Griffin]

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