2017 REGULAR SEASON LA Dodgers & international

[Quake Griffin]

Yu got creamed by the Blue Jays in Game 2 last year.

I've always envisioned an Andy Pettite type behind Kershaw. A guy who isnt the ace of the staff, couldnt shine Shaw's shoes but was nails in the postseason.

Last year Hamels coughed it up in Game 1.
Then Yu.
And the Rangers stood no chance in Toronto after that.
Boom. Done that quickly.


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so.. who do you propose is a realistic trade candidate for our post season #2, or are you satisfied if we stand pat?

Stand pat at this point. My favorite target, Chris Archer, is playing for a team that looks like it is going to try and compete in 2017. The other target I liked, Jose Quintana, is now a Cub.

Im not against Yu per se. But given what I previously stated, I'm not interested in a bidding war for him.


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[Neddy]

Yu got creamed by the Blue Jays in Game 2 last year.

I've always envisioned an Andy Pettite type behind Kershaw. A guy who isnt the ace of the staff, couldnt shine Shaw's shoes but was nails in the postseason.

Last year Hamels coughed it up in Game 1.
Then Yu.
And the Rangers stood no chance in Toronto after that.
Boom. Done that quickly.


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so.. who do you propose is a realistic trade candidate for our post season #2, or are you satisfied if we stand pat?

Stand pat at this point. My favorite target, Chris Archer, is playing for a team that looks like it is going to try and compete in 2017. The other target I liked, Jose Quintana, is now a Cub.

Im not against Yu per se. But given what I previously stated, I'm not interested in a bidding war for him.


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I don't have a problem standing pat. it worked out for the 1998 Yanks.

I do think we can do a little bit better. giving away Hatcher+Farmer+Sven for Blevin+Reed is one. if we can give away Willie, Santana, and Maeda for Yu, I would love it.

but I do understand if neither deal is realistic and cannot be done.

meanwhile, Corey Seager goes the yard.

[Neddy]

here we go.

with one run scored already thanks to Corey, now with one on with two outs, Forsythe is in the batter's box with two strikes.

[Quake Griffin]

Sergio Romo dealt


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[Neddy]

Sergio being a hometown boy, it hurts.

but his production is what it was. i am sorry to let him go, but his time was up.

[Neddy]

6-2

we are getting back into where we should be.

[Neddy]

I dunno if anyone posted this before, but a real cool read.
https://thekzonenews.wordpress.com/2017/07/14/is-kershaw-really-a-postseason-choker/

But in reality, this actually hasn’t been the case, and the fact that so many people consider Kershaw to be a choke artist speaks more to his amazing regular season dominance than any struggles he’s had in the playoffs. Through 282 starts in the regular season, Kershaw has an outstanding 2.35 ERA and 0.998 WHIP, so anything worse than that in the postseason is going to feel like a disappointment.

The main argument defending Kershaw’s postseason woes for awhile now has been lack of sample size. As Kershaw has reached the playoffs more and more this argument has weakened a little bit but is still relevant, as his 89 total postseason innings pitched is less than half of what Kershaw pitches in a typical regular season. It’s a large enough sample size that we can make some conclusions about how Kershaw has pitched in the playoffs, but not enough that we can judge his true talent level. We have 1892.1 innings of regular season data to judge his true talent level.
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the numbers he is showing are nothing we don't already know, but nice to have someone look them up and confirm or deny anyone's suspicions or assumptions about our ace.

also, i would like to add that many of Kershaw's post season runners on base he left in the game, were managed by none other than Donny the Idiot and his dumb face not knowing what to do and making the situation worse. Love how decisive Dave is in comparison.
I think this is the year Kershaw's playoff reputation gets a new makeover.

[Quake Griffin]

IMO, there's too many starts where hes actually going good then the BS (misplays by defense, bad managing, weak contact getting runners on etc etc.) **** him over. I believe there are more of those than there are just crappy starts in the postseason for him.

I swear on my life...Baez is not a high leverage reliever. He doesnt get "holds." Game 1 Mets. Game 4 Nats. BOTH Donnie and Doc let Kersh go into the 7th. Bags loaded both times. Both times here comes chicken **** no nuts Baez who gives up the hit to screw him over. Any surprise that he settles down and gets the next out when nothing is on the line?

OK. Donnie didnt pull Kershaw in Game 1 of the Cards. Who is the POS giving up a king size bomb to Matt Holliday that put that game out of reach? Baez.

Let me guess, Baez is going to be great in the 2017 postseason? Lmao.

I dont have hope for Kershaw to turn into Schilling or Beckett ( cant think of anymore good modern postseason pitchers). Overall, I don't really care that he turns into one of them for a few reasons:
- He's already great, a HoFer, and he's been essential in us getting to the postseason.
- Go figure on what makes a guy nails in the postseason. Are Andy Pettite or Jon Lester as good as Kershaw? No. Would I trade Kershaw for them just because of their postseason resumes? No.
- I think our team is significantly worse and may struggle to make the postseason some years if we replaced Kershaw with some of these "good postseason pitchers."
- Greg Maddux eventually figured out the postseason. So can Kershaw.


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[Neddy]

IMO, there's too many starts where hes actually going good then the BS (misplays by defense, bad managing, weak contact getting runners on etc etc.) **** him over. I believe there are more of those than there are just crappy starts in the postseason for him.

lol you didn't read the entire article, did you? go on the link. your answers/questions will explain themselves.

swear on my life...Baez is not a high leverage reliever. He doesnt get "holds." Game 1 Mets. Game 4 Nats. BOTH Donnie and Doc let Kersh go into the 7th. Bags loaded both times. Both times here comes chicken **** no nuts Baez who gives up the hit to screw him over. Any surprise that he settles down and gets the next out when nothing is on the line?

OK. Donnie didnt pull Kershaw in Game 1 of the Cards. Who is the POS giving up a king size bomb to Matt Holliday that put that game out of reach? Baez.

Let me guess, Baez is going to be great in the 2017 postseason? Lmao.

I dont have hope for Kershaw to turn into Schilling or Beckett ( cant think of anymore good modern postseason pitchers). Overall, I don't really care that he turns into one of them for a few reasons:
- He's already great, a HoFer, and he's been essential in us getting to the postseason.
- Go figure on what makes a guy nails in the postseason. Are Andy Pettite or Jon Lester as good as Kershaw? No. Would I trade Kershaw for them just because of their postseason resumes? No.
- I think our team is significantly worse and may struggle to make the postseason some years if we replaced Kershaw with some of these "good postseason pitchers."
- Greg Maddux eventually figured out the postseason. So can Kershaw.


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I agree Baez isn't a high leverage pitcher but he still is a quality pitcher. I want him on my team, just not for 8th inning. that's why I am very excited about us (potentially)getting Blevins and Reed.


BTW Kershaw getting pulled after just 2 innings with hip tightness... not good.

[Quake Griffin]

Great.

Velocity down and yanked from the game.

DL stint coming up.


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[Neddy]

Great.

Velocity down and yanked from the game.

DL stint coming up.


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hey it's better to be cautious and let him rest now, get himself back 100%, then go into the playoffs. I wouldn't even mind if he misses from now til mid September.

by the way, this actually could be a great thing to give extra rest to Clayton before the post season (let's be real, we already made into the post season. at this point, it is all about the home field advantage) and forcing the FO to trade for a top of the rotation type of a pitcher along with Reed and Blevins I just mentioned earlier.

[Neddy]

the way Taylor/Seager/Turner were hitting hard (although they all made outs including Taylor on first) I think we are gonna get some runs on this kid now that the lineup turned over.

[Neddy]

the way Taylor/Seager/Turner were hitting hard (although they all made outs including Taylor on first) I think we are gonna get some runs on this kid now that the lineup turned over.

yeah I was wrong.

[Quake Griffin]

Back tightness for Kershaw.

Feared this might reoccur since he didn't have surgery.


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[Quake Griffin]

Barnes!!!11


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[Neddy]

Back tightness for Kershaw.

Feared this might reoccur since he didn't have surgery.


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hopefully it's just a tightness and not another episode of herniated disk.

[Neddy]

Barnes!!!11


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I am starting to think Barnes deserves to start... except Grandal is one of the top 3 offensive catchers in the game, and the best defensive catcher in the game ( according to Fangraphs). we have an embarrassment of riches......

[TKainZero]

Kershaw left the game early. Uh oh

[Neddy]

Kershaw left the game early. Uh oh

seems more cautionary than an actual injury, unless his back is having another herniated disk issues.


I know you don't get the games in LA, so Kershaw mowed down the first 5 hitters, then on the 6th hitter, he bounced a curve, then didn't look like he was throwing with a full effort for the pitch right after, which prompted Dave to take out a trainer to the mound, had Kershaw pitch a couple of practice pitches. Dave and Clayton exchanged some words, and Dave went back in. Clayton actually finished the inning, then was replaced when his at bat came up. looked to me if it was serious, Dave would have taken Clay out of the game immediately and not let him finish the inning. 10.5 game lead can afford you this luxury.

[Neddy]

both hits Kenley gave up were not exactly a triple digit exit velocity balls, he was simply unlucky. but the last two flyball outs were really hard hit balls that were pulled to the LF, and Taylor played them very well.

baseball is a funny game.


and... now Jansen gave up a three run HR to Matt Adams with just 1 more out to go...


baseball is really a funny game.

and I want Dave to stop throwing Kenley out there for 5 out saves. Andrew needs to go out and get Reed and Blevins, or Justin Wilson and get this multi inning saves outta here.