2016 Regular Season Thread

[Quake Griffin]

thanks for everything Howie.

FOH!

Chase is my 2nd Baseman.

[Quake Griffin]

The reports about Trayce's defense should be limited to saying that he has range.

He will kick a ball in the outfield or muck up a simple play like nobody's business.

[Neddy]

The reports about Trayce's defense should be limited to saying that he has range.

He will kick a ball in the outfield or muck up a simple play like nobody's business.

Trayce is an above average defensive outfielder, but her is not anything other than a centerfielder and making him play corner is what is causing his error happy plays. the angle of the ball coming at you is vastly different when you are at the center versus left or right. Trayce struggles the most at the left, and is understandable. the ball hooks and cuts to the left, not when you are playing the center.

[Quake Griffin]

I have a gut feeling we're trying to get Trayce ready to take over in CF so we can package Joc for some pitching...and we're just trying to get him enough PA at the major league level to see to get enough info on him to see if we should make that move.



Pretty impressed with Joc's .379 OBP in 95 PA this year though.

[Ranma]

[Ranma]

I have a gut feeling we're trying to get Trayce ready to take over in CF so we can package Joc for some pitching...and we're just trying to get him enough PA at the major league level to see to get enough info on him to see if we should make that move.



Pretty impressed with Joc's .379 OBP in 95 PA this year though.

Tonight's walk-off HR with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th inning by Trayce Thompson surely doesn't hurt your theory.

[Quake Griffin]

Glad my man Alex Wood showed up tonight.
Read on a forum that we've committed 8 errors behind him in his last 4 starts....smfh.
Tonight was no exception.


Salute to Trayce for that as well.

[Ranma]

Glad my man Alex Wood showed up tonight.
Read on a forum that we've committed 8 errors behind him in his last 4 starts....smfh.
Tonight was no exception.


Salute to Trayce for that as well.

8 errors?! Geez. And I thought Kershaw was the most snake-bit out of the Dodgers' starters. This is why I'm willing to stick with Wood in the starting rotation to give him a chance to find consistency in his pitching form even if I may think his future lies in the bullpen eventually, though I'm still a little conflicted about that. However, like I've said, the aim is to maximize his value while he's still with us.

[Quake Griffin]

Yeah..just read it on a forum...didn't see official stats.

Keep in mind, if those numbers are official, Trayce and Howie's muffs in Colorado weren't factored in because they weren't scored errors.

Key word: if.

[Quake Griffin]

Seager unaware of the out situation.

Throws home instead of getting the double play and getting out of the inning.
smfh.

edit:
Maeda gets him out of it anyway with the K.

[Neddy]

Seager unaware of the out situation.

Throws home instead of getting the double play and getting out of the inning.
smfh.

edit:
Maeda gets him out of it anyway with the K.

i was thinking the same thing, but I was watching the game on my phone while at a restaurant for my son's birth day, so I figured maybe Chase was out of place for a double play due to shift? but if Chase was in place to turn it over, Seager made a rookie mistake.

[Neddy]

oh come on, Maeda giving up back to back homerun to the pitcher of all people? now Thor got 2 HRs and all 4 RBIs against Kenta. you have got to be kidding me... ****!

[Ranma]

I just came back from making myself a few sandwiches and now find the team down 2 runs.

[Neddy]

**** this game and drive one right between Thor's ribs with a fastone.

[Ranma]

Man, we just don't look competitive against the Mets tonight despite putting 2 runs on the board off homers from Seager and Grandal.

[Neddy]

Man, we just don't look competitive against the Mets tonight despite putting 2 runs on the board off homers from Seager and Grandal.

we actually looked good other than giving up all 4 runs via 2 HRs to their goddamn pitcher.

[Ranma]

Kendrick was also robbed of a hit and Puig just missed hitting one out, but that's the thing. Our best efforts seemed to be neutralized by the Mets' defense, pitching, or whatever. The 2 homers by Thor could be considered flukes, but Syndergaard has basically single-handedly put us 2 outs away from a loss.

[Quake Griffin]

He tried his best to make sure he didn't get that bunt down.
I was thinking, why? Take the out. Maybe even double play if the bunt is weak enough. This guy creamed your **** the 1st time up. We're 17-16 (before the L). We need to collect Ws. **** your pride as a pitcher.

Was all very frustrating.

Will this team ever put up more than 3 runs in a home game?
gtfoh.

[Quake Griffin]

On a positive note.

Thank you bullpen for showing some life and getting these outs. It's greatly appreciated. Sorry our offense can't put up runs at Chavez even if they paid for em.

Joe Blanton...Coleman....not bad pickups.

[Ranma]

As a followup to the Logan White discussion that started on page 18 of this thread, Jim Callis points out that had the Dodgers not drafted Clayton Kershaw with the 7th overall pick in the 2006 MLB Amateur Draft, Logan White was set to go with Bryan Morris, who lasted until the 26th overall pick when the Dodgers took him with the 2nd of their 2 first-round picks that year. That's right. Bryan Morris over Max Scherzer and Tim Lincecum. Ian Kennedy would have also been available, but I was partial to Kyle Drabek at the time, so it goes to show how much I know.

The Dodgers were doubly lucky for Luke Hochevar to renege on his agreement to sign after the Dodgers drafted him 40th overall in 2005. This allowed the Royals to nab him 1st overall in 2006, which in turn distracted the Tigers from their initial targeting of Kershaw, and allowed the Dodgers to nab their future Hall-of-Fame ace while also avoid wasting the 7th overall pick on the misfire that would have been Bryan Morris. It mitigated the damage of missing on Morris with the 26th overall pick instead.

Kershaw was my top target from the start in the 2006 draft, but I was convinced the Tigers were going to nab him. The unexpected availability of Andrew Miller, the consensus top prospect for that draft, allowed the Dodgers to benefit greatly from the selection of Clayton Kershaw. I still had faith in Logan White at the time, but I was scratching my head at the notion of taking Bryan Morris 7th overall. When we nabbed him at 26th overall, I figured it was a diamond-in-the-rough pick that White saw something in him that others didn't. It turned out to be one of the most questionable draft targets of White's career, in my opinion.

Jim Callis, MLB.com (5/10/16)

The Tigers, meanwhile, were locked in on Kershaw, whose fastball and curveball had improved dramatically that spring. They were set to grab him at No. 6 until the Royals surprised the industry by popping Hochevar, setting off a chain reaction that made Miller available. The Dodgers took Kershaw with the next pick, and their alternative would have been Bryan Morris, whom they were able to land with a second first-rounder at No. 26.
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Kershaw a Tiger? How the 2006 Draft Almost Went

Logan White's dodger years were from 2002 starting as a scoutng director, to 2014 as an assistant GM. without any specific order,

2002 - James Loney/James McDonald/Jonothan Broxton/Delwynn Young/Eric Stults/Russell Martin/Luke Hochever
2003 - Chad BIllingsley/Chuck Tiffany/Xavier Paul/Matt Kemp/AJ Ellis/Mark Melancon/Andy LaRoshe
2004 - Scott Elbert/Blake Dewitt/justin Orendoff/Javy Guerra/Cory Wade/David Price/Jusgtin Ruggiano
2005 - Luke Hochever / Ivan De Jesus /Josh wall/Josh Bell/Scott Van Slyke/Jody Mercer
2006 - Clayton Kershaw/Paul Goldschmidt
2007 - CHris WithRow/Andrew Lambo
2008 - Ethan Martin/Josh Lindblom/Dee Gordon/Nathan Eovaldi/Allen Webster/Jerry Sands/Matt Mcgill/Daniel Coulombe
2009- absolutely sucked this year with nobody making it to the show.
2010 - Zach Lee/Joc Pederson/Scott Schebler/Shawn Tolleson
2011 - Chris Reed
2012 - Cory Seager / Paco / Onelki Garcia / Ross Stripling /Darnell Sweeney/Daniel Coulombe/JOrdan Hershiser
2013 - Chris Anderson/Tom Windle
2014 - Grant Holmes / ALex Verdugo

having about 40 picks a year, Logan absolutely nailed it in his early years as our scouting director. from 2008 and to 2014 the assiatnat GM years, he was very much a hit and miss and miss and miss... a la league average.

still love the guy, but it's beena decade since he was a draft guru.

I really think we neee to separqate his early dodger years as the scouting director, who is solely responsible for finding talent versus his assistant GM days, where his eye for a talent was tainted by his ambition to rise above.

his early years as purely the director of scouting department of the dodgers was nearly impeccable.
his AGM days was very sketchy, maybe he was away from the actual field or his luck had funally run out.

but as a scout alone, he was speicial... or very y. either way he produced ungodly number of successful future major leaguer prospects.

Unfortunately, most of the arguments were made on one of the multiple Dodgers fan forums I used to frequent and I can't find the specific threads in question. Plus, my memory sucks now so I can't even remember which forums they were, which further keeps me from remembering specifically which of his contemporaries were cited in comparison to Logan White.

Below are a couple of arguments I found in a Google search that lend support to the assessment of Logan White, but neither were the ones I was previously involved in. I also want to make clear that my assessment of White was with regard to his effectiveness overall. I liked him as our lead scout, but would have been concerned with him as our GM. A large part of his appeal to me was that he prioritized things I look for in prospects such as clean mechanics, tools, and projectability. He obviously has an eye for talent when you consider he identified David Price, Paul Goldschmidt, Kevin Gausman, and Shohei Ohtani as prospects, but was not without his shortcomings such as not developing hitters consistently.

Adrian Garcia, DodgersWay.com (10/24/14)

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Yikes.

Kemp Loney Martin and Billingsley are solid regulars, but ever since 2004, it’s Clayton Kershaw, Dee Gordon who has had one good season 3 second division type players, and a pile of AAA level players and relievers. Put however much blame you want on Frank McCourt, but Nathan Eovaldi being your best player since 2006 is simply unacceptable. Chris Reed was a bad pick, Chris Anderson is looking a lot like Chris Withrow, Chris Withrow himself spent 4 seasons in AA purgatory, came up, was good for half a season and then blew out his elbow, none of the picks between 2007-2011 (possibly 2012) have worked out.

With or without Frank McCourt’s spending limits on scouting, it’s a bad track record. As long as you’re drafting a decent player once every two seasons, you’re doing just fine, but to choose Zach Lee over Kevin Gausman, to choose Chris Reed over Sonny Gray, Joe Panik, Robert Stephenson, Matt Barnes, Kolten Wong, Alex Meyer, and Blake Swihart.

ALL OF WHOM ASIDE FROM STEPHENSON SIGNED FOR SIMILAR A SIMILAR AMOUNT THAN REED.

Logan White’s Departure is Not Insurmountable


azblue20, OurDodgers.com (5/20/11)

We have drafted mainly pitching in that time. That's worked out very well for us.
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Following is the list of 1st round picks by Logan White:

2001-Brian Pilkington {out of baseball}
2002-James Loney and Greg Miller {out of baseball}...and wish Loney was too!
2003-Billingsley
2004-Scott Elbert Blake DeWitt and Justin Orenduff {earth shattering!}..3 1st rd picks,3 whiffs!
2005-Luke Hochevar {did not sign}
2006- Kershaw and Bryan Morris {!}....AND Preston Mattingley!!!.3 1st rd picks,2 whiffs
2007-Chris Withrow {arm problems since drafted,and he can`t get anyone out!}}
2008-Ethan Martin {5.41 ERA three minor seasons}
2009-Aaron Miller {7.04 ERA in AA last year}
2010-Zach Lee {currently shut down,MRI due}

Lets see?..Brian Pilkington,Greg Miller,Scott Elbert,Justin Orenduff,Bryan Morris,Chris Withrow,Ethan Martin,and Aaron Miller have "worked out well for us".Hey,those are just the first round picks wasted!

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