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Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024

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Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#1 » by ijspeelman » Thu Dec 5, 2024 3:43 pm

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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#2 » by mcfly1204 » Thu Dec 5, 2024 4:20 pm

Very interested to see the front court matchup. That said, our guards should be able to roast them.
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Post#3 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Dec 5, 2024 7:01 pm

This will be a tough game, i assume.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#5 » by ijspeelman » Fri Dec 6, 2024 1:37 am

We're playing well, but want to comment that for some reason Jarrett Allen is just not shooting when he has any pressure.

Maybe its part of the gameplan and Jokic has ridiculously good hands stripping the ball (he is top 50 in the league for stl/100 pos, but IDK if that should persuade Allen just not to shoot his hooks). We've seen our guards get hedged and doubled so he's been found many times in the short roll with a simple floater or hook open, but instead he's picking up the ball and resetting the possession.

He just missed a dunk (his 4th shot of the night) actually shooting from that spot so maybe something is bothering him?

He's played really good defense on Jokic so he's not been a net-negative even though he's killing some offensive possessions. Just weird.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#6 » by ijspeelman » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:19 am

We keep winning these big tests pretty convincingly (sans the Celtics game).

I keep preparing for a dog fight and we keep looking like the better team early on. I'm feeling more and more comfortable considering us a legit contender.

Edit: Also, huge shoutout to Merrill. His shot isn't falling, but he's been so solid on the defensive end that I have to assume Kenny saw that and gave him extended run over some of the other bench guys.

Hope Okoro is fine. He left early on with a left knee contusion. Luckily, we have a pretty smooth next 4 games (Hornets sans a lot of players, Heat, Wizards, Nets) with plenty of rest (14 days between tomorrow and their 5th game).
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

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ijspeelman wrote:We're playing well, but want to comment that for some reason Jarrett Allen is just not shooting when he has any pressure.

Maybe its part of the gameplan and Jokic has ridiculously good hands stripping the ball (he is top 50 in the league for stl/100 pos, but IDK if that should persuade Allen just not to shoot his hooks). We've seen our guards get hedged and doubled so he's been found many times in the short roll with a simple floater or hook open, but instead he's picking up the ball and resetting the possession.

He just missed a dunk (his 4th shot of the night) actually shooting from that spot so maybe something is bothering him?

He's played really good defense on Jokic so he's not been a net-negative even though he's killing some offensive possessions. Just weird.


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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#8 » by toooskies » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:21 am

ijspeelman wrote:We're playing well, but want to comment that for some reason Jarrett Allen is just not shooting when he has any pressure.

Maybe its part of the gameplan and Jokic has ridiculously good hands stripping the ball (he is top 50 in the league for stl/100 pos, but IDK if that should persuade Allen just not to shoot his hooks). We've seen our guards get hedged and doubled so he's been found many times in the short roll with a simple floater or hook open, but instead he's picking up the ball and resetting the possession.

He just missed a dunk (his 4th shot of the night) actually shooting from that spot so maybe something is bothering him?

He's played really good defense on Jokic so he's not been a net-negative even though he's killing some offensive possessions. Just weird.

Allen has been below his standard since that leg injury he had. We have a lot of rest days coming up, hopefully he can get right while Cup teams are wasting their energy.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#9 » by ijspeelman » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:27 am

toooskies wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:We're playing well, but want to comment that for some reason Jarrett Allen is just not shooting when he has any pressure.

Maybe its part of the gameplan and Jokic has ridiculously good hands stripping the ball (he is top 50 in the league for stl/100 pos, but IDK if that should persuade Allen just not to shoot his hooks). We've seen our guards get hedged and doubled so he's been found many times in the short roll with a simple floater or hook open, but instead he's picking up the ball and resetting the possession.

He just missed a dunk (his 4th shot of the night) actually shooting from that spot so maybe something is bothering him?

He's played really good defense on Jokic so he's not been a net-negative even though he's killing some offensive possessions. Just weird.

Allen has been below his standard since that leg injury he had. We have a lot of rest days coming up, hopefully he can get right while Cup teams are wasting their energy.


I'm somewhat shocked he hasn't gotten a day off. Kenny has been good with limiting minutes and giving guys nights off, but for whatever reason Allen has been playing every day and today playing the most minutes (which makes sense against Jokic).
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#10 » by toooskies » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:37 am

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toooskies wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:We're playing well, but want to comment that for some reason Jarrett Allen is just not shooting when he has any pressure.

Maybe its part of the gameplan and Jokic has ridiculously good hands stripping the ball (he is top 50 in the league for stl/100 pos, but IDK if that should persuade Allen just not to shoot his hooks). We've seen our guards get hedged and doubled so he's been found many times in the short roll with a simple floater or hook open, but instead he's picking up the ball and resetting the possession.

He just missed a dunk (his 4th shot of the night) actually shooting from that spot so maybe something is bothering him?

He's played really good defense on Jokic so he's not been a net-negative even though he's killing some offensive possessions. Just weird.

Allen has been below his standard since that leg injury he had. We have a lot of rest days coming up, hopefully he can get right while Cup teams are wasting their energy.


I'm somewhat shocked he hasn't gotten a day off. Kenny has been good with limiting minutes and giving guys nights off, but for whatever reason Allen has been playing every day and today playing the most minutes (which makes sense against Jokic).

One of Allen's preseason goals was to play 82 games.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#11 » by ijspeelman » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:40 am

toooskies wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:
toooskies wrote:Allen has been below his standard since that leg injury he had. We have a lot of rest days coming up, hopefully he can get right while Cup teams are wasting their energy.


I'm somewhat shocked he hasn't gotten a day off. Kenny has been good with limiting minutes and giving guys nights off, but for whatever reason Allen has been playing every day and today playing the most minutes (which makes sense against Jokic).

One of Allen's preseason goals was to play 82 games.


That'll do it.

If its going to harm us in the playoffs, I'd prefer he take his rest. This stretch of four games in two weeks coming up should be really helpful tho
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#12 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:54 am

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toooskies wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:
I'm somewhat shocked he hasn't gotten a day off. Kenny has been good with limiting minutes and giving guys nights off, but for whatever reason Allen has been playing every day and today playing the most minutes (which makes sense against Jokic).

One of Allen's preseason goals was to play 82 games.


That'll do it.

If its going to harm us in the playoffs, I'd prefer he take his rest. This stretch of four games in two weeks coming up should be really helpful tho
Cavs seem to play better with less rest lol Hawks smacked us last time.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#13 » by Eightnineborn » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:53 am

Cavs should rest both Allen and Mitchell vs the Hornets…
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#15 » by JonFromVA » Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:48 pm

I like how Jokic was seemingly scoring at will in this game and Gordon was bullying us in the paint too, yet we still buried the Nuggets.
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

Post#16 » by ijspeelman » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:39 pm



Just cool watching Mobley comfortable shooting threes. He made two "movement" threes in this game. Just don't usually see it and really does show the volume increase is real. I am curious where his % falls at the end of the season
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Re: Game 23: Nuggets @ Cavs 12/5/2024 

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Just cool watching Mobley comfortable shooting threes. He made two "movement" threes in this game. Just don't usually see it and really does show the volume increase is real. I am curious where his % falls at the end of the season
It's a good layer added to his game.

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