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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#341 » by FromTheLand » Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:55 pm

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FromTheLand wrote:Thomas Bryant? Perfect pick up


Actually one of the more perfect pickups for a backup big. Shocked he didn't command more of a market. Bryant allows another big who can play next to either of Mobley or Allen. Obvi a combo of Bryant and Allen makes us lack footspeed, but we may be able to get away w it in the RS and some PS matchups

I guess LNJ is taking the Tristan role this season. I'm still okay if he gets spot minutes at the 4/5


We needed a physical big. It really would help dealing with Robinson in the playoffs.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#343 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:22 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:I can't believe media day is 1 week away. The off-season flew by.

Below is my count of guys on the roster, we can have a total of 21 but I'm not sure the Cavs ever get to that number for camp.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Tomlin (Two-way)
15. Travers (Two-way)
16. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
17. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
18. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)
Just an updated list and the training camp roster is now full.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Bryant (Exhibit 9 [non guaranteed])
15. Tomlin (Two-way)
16. Travers (Two-way)
17. Killian Hayes (Exhibit 10?)
18. Tristan Enaruna (Exhibit 10?)
19. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
20. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
21. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#344 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:17 am

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toooskies wrote:
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I count him as being the 10th guy, I think?

I have the following ahead of him:
Garland
Mitchell
Mobley
Allen
Hunter
Strus
Merrill
Ball
Bryant

Kinda a toss-up on some nights if Merrill, Ball, or Bryant are ahead of him.

Do you have Tyson or CPJ (or Proctor) ahead?

I've got Nance ahead of Wade too.


I can see it, but idk if I agree. I kinda see LNJ as a back-up small-ball big rather than a 4. I think Wade will get a lot more run in that slot due to his defense on the wing. However, I could just be not seeing the vision
Michael Scotto is reporting Bryant's deal is non guaranteed.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#345 » by toooskies » Wed Sep 24, 2025 2:34 am

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toooskies wrote:I've got Nance ahead of Wade too.


I can see it, but idk if I agree. I kinda see LNJ as a back-up small-ball big rather than a 4. I think Wade will get a lot more run in that slot due to his defense on the wing. However, I could just be not seeing the vision
Michael Scotto is reporting Bryant's deal is non guaranteed.

Makes sense. If he ends up being a Damian Jones, we can promote Killian or some other player.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#346 » by JonFromVA » Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:56 am

I wouldn't be in any rush to put Bryant ahead of anyone on this team until we see how he fits.

That being said, we don't want to wear down Nance and there may be times we will prefer Bryant over Wade simply because he's a bigger body.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#347 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:32 am

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ijspeelman wrote:
I can see it, but idk if I agree. I kinda see LNJ as a back-up small-ball big rather than a 4. I think Wade will get a lot more run in that slot due to his defense on the wing. However, I could just be not seeing the vision
Michael Scotto is reporting Bryant's deal is non guaranteed.

Makes sense. If he ends up being a Damian Jones, we can promote Killian or some other player.
I'd love to carry Killian on the 15 man until Garland is back but I doubt they go that route. Probably just leave him stashed with the Charge, as a break glass option.

Porter Jr did pull his hamstring 2 months ago, probably healed now but who knows.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#348 » by toooskies » Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:20 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Michael Scotto is reporting Bryant's deal is non guaranteed.

Makes sense. If he ends up being a Damian Jones, we can promote Killian or some other player.
I'd love to carry Killian on the 15 man until Garland is back but I doubt they go that route. Probably just leave him stashed with the Charge, as a break glass option.

Porter Jr did pull his hamstring 2 months ago, probably healed now but who knows.

Yeah, Fedor was pretty adamant that we're not filling spot #15 on his podcast yesterday, but if Bryant isn't guaranteed and doesn't show much in camp, Hayes could win the 14th spot.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#349 » by ijspeelman » Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:08 pm

I care a lot less about the Hayes camp spot. I don't think we lack ballhandlers even with Garland out for half the season and if one our other handlers goes down. I really do see him as a desperation move whereas I could see Bryant contributing outright
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#350 » by jbk1234 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:20 pm

JonFromVA wrote:I wouldn't be in any rush to put Bryant ahead of anyone on this team until we see how he fits.

That being said, we don't want to wear down Nance and there may be times we will prefer Bryant over Wade simply because he's a bigger body.


I have zero confidence in Nance or Wade being viable options against KAT/Robinson or WCJ/Mo Wagner. We need a big body and the Cavs need to save a roster spot for one.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#351 » by JonFromVA » Wed Sep 24, 2025 5:02 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:I wouldn't be in any rush to put Bryant ahead of anyone on this team until we see how he fits.

That being said, we don't want to wear down Nance and there may be times we will prefer Bryant over Wade simply because he's a bigger body.


I have zero confidence in Nance or Wade being viable options against KAT/Robinson or WCJ/Mo Wagner. We need a big body and the Cavs need to save a roster spot for one.


Heh, if we just need a big body, maybe we could sign Miles Garrett. Talent, skill, BBIQ, etc, play a part here too.

Don't pile too many hopes in to a guy who 5 teams have let walk in the past 5 seasons.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#352 » by jbk1234 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 5:35 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:I wouldn't be in any rush to put Bryant ahead of anyone on this team until we see how he fits.

That being said, we don't want to wear down Nance and there may be times we will prefer Bryant over Wade simply because he's a bigger body.


I have zero confidence in Nance or Wade being viable options against KAT/Robinson or WCJ/Mo Wagner. We need a big body and the Cavs need to save a roster spot for one.


Heh, if we just need a big body, maybe we could sign Miles Garrett. Talent, skill, BBIQ, etc, play a part here too.

Don't pile too many hopes in to a guy who 5 teams have let walk in the past 5 seasons.


It's my hope that he could play 3-5 minutes a half to prevent Allen from getting worn down, or to shove back if the officials are letting too much go. We have plenty of versatile bigs who can guard multiple positions and cover a lot of ground. Allen is the only player on the roster who can hold his own against big men who use their size and strength to their advantage. It wears him down over the course of a series.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#353 » by JonFromVA » Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:27 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
I have zero confidence in Nance or Wade being viable options against KAT/Robinson or WCJ/Mo Wagner. We need a big body and the Cavs need to save a roster spot for one.


Heh, if we just need a big body, maybe we could sign Miles Garrett. Talent, skill, BBIQ, etc, play a part here too.

Don't pile too many hopes in to a guy who 5 teams have let walk in the past 5 seasons.


It's my hope that he could play 3-5 minutes a half to prevent Allen from getting worn down, or to shove back if the officials are letting too much go. We have plenty of versatile bigs who can guard multiple positions and cover a lot of ground. Allen is the only player on the roster who can hold his own against big men who use their size and strength to their advantage. It wears him down over the course of a series.


If that's the key to our success we could just sit Allen out of those games in the regular season, and replace him with just about anything in the playoffs for those 3-5 minutes.

Maybe even take a page of Ty Lue's book when all he had to do to get Jonas Valanciunas off the floor in a playoff series was threaten to bring Channing Frye in.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#354 » by jbk1234 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:12 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Heh, if we just need a big body, maybe we could sign Miles Garrett. Talent, skill, BBIQ, etc, play a part here too.

Don't pile too many hopes in to a guy who 5 teams have let walk in the past 5 seasons.


It's my hope that he could play 3-5 minutes a half to prevent Allen from getting worn down, or to shove back if the officials are letting too much go. We have plenty of versatile bigs who can guard multiple positions and cover a lot of ground. Allen is the only player on the roster who can hold his own against big men who use their size and strength to their advantage. It wears him down over the course of a series.


If that's the key to our success we could just sit Allen out of those games in the regular season, and replace him with just about anything in the playoffs for those 3-5 minutes.

Maybe even take a page of Ty Lue's book when all he had to do to get Jonas Valanciunas off the floor in a playoff series was threaten to bring Channing Frye in.


Except we don't have Frye, nor LBJ to rebound as a 3rd big, and there are now three playoff series (I'm including the Magic) out of five where we we've run into problems surrendering size all over the court. I'd like to have the option throwing a guy like Bryant out there for a couple minutes and bringing Allen back in fresh.

It's fine to try to beat size with speed and shooting, but I'd like the option of doing something else when it's not working. If the Cavs don't get it done this season, the core is getting broken up, and I'd really like to make sure the Cavs did what it could to keep them together.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#355 » by JonFromVA » Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:53 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
It's my hope that he could play 3-5 minutes a half to prevent Allen from getting worn down, or to shove back if the officials are letting too much go. We have plenty of versatile bigs who can guard multiple positions and cover a lot of ground. Allen is the only player on the roster who can hold his own against big men who use their size and strength to their advantage. It wears him down over the course of a series.


If that's the key to our success we could just sit Allen out of those games in the regular season, and replace him with just about anything in the playoffs for those 3-5 minutes.

Maybe even take a page of Ty Lue's book when all he had to do to get Jonas Valanciunas off the floor in a playoff series was threaten to bring Channing Frye in.


Except we don't have Frye, nor LBJ to rebound as a 3rd big, and there are now three playoff series (I'm including the Magic) out of five where we we've run into problems surrendering size all over the court. I'd like to have the option throwing a guy like Bryant out there for a couple minutes and bringing Allen back in fresh.

It's fine to try to beat size with speed and shooting, but I'd like the option of doing something else when it's not working. If the Cavs don't get it done this season, the core is getting broken up, and I'd really like to make sure the Cavs did what it could to keep them together.


Well, I'm glad you like the guy we've got this season, but I've seen Kenny and JBB just not bother with our deep bench bigs in the past presumably because they're deep bench bigs and they suck.

Kenny would rather play Strus at PF.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#356 » by jbk1234 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:41 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
If that's the key to our success we could just sit Allen out of those games in the regular season, and replace him with just about anything in the playoffs for those 3-5 minutes.

Maybe even take a page of Ty Lue's book when all he had to do to get Jonas Valanciunas off the floor in a playoff series was threaten to bring Channing Frye in.


Except we don't have Frye, nor LBJ to rebound as a 3rd big, and there are now three playoff series (I'm including the Magic) out of five where we we've run into problems surrendering size all over the court. I'd like to have the option throwing a guy like Bryant out there for a couple minutes and bringing Allen back in fresh.

It's fine to try to beat size with speed and shooting, but I'd like the option of doing something else when it's not working. If the Cavs don't get it done this season, the core is getting broken up, and I'd really like to make sure the Cavs did what it could to keep them together.


Well, I'm glad you like the guy we've got this season, but I've seen Kenny and JBB just not bother with our deep bench bigs in the past presumably because they're deep bench bigs and they suck.

Kenny would rather play Strus at PF.


When your bench bigs were R. Lopez and TT, it's not hard to improve. I was worried we were going to bring Love back.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#358 » by toooskies » Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:29 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I can't believe media day is 1 week away. The off-season flew by.

Below is my count of guys on the roster, we can have a total of 21 but I'm not sure the Cavs ever get to that number for camp.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Tomlin (Two-way)
15. Travers (Two-way)
16. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
17. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
18. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)
Just an updated list and the training camp roster is now full.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Bryant (Exhibit 9 [non guaranteed])
15. Tomlin (Two-way)
16. Travers (Two-way)
17. Killian Hayes (Exhibit 10?)
18. Tristan Enaruna (Exhibit 10?)
19. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
20. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
21. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)

According to the wiretap, Robinson was signed and cut while Miller Kopp took the Exhibit 10 into camp.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#359 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Sep 29, 2025 11:48 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I can't believe media day is 1 week away. The off-season flew by.

Below is my count of guys on the roster, we can have a total of 21 but I'm not sure the Cavs ever get to that number for camp.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Tomlin (Two-way)
15. Travers (Two-way)
16. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
17. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
18. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)
Just an updated list and the training camp roster is now full.

1. Mitchell
2. Mobley
3. Garland (IR to start the season)
4. Allen
5. Hunter
6. Strus (IR to start the season)
7. Ball
8. LNJ
9. Merrill
10. Wade
11. CPJ
12. Tyson
13. Proctor
14. Bryant (Exhibit 9 [non guaranteed])
15. Tomlin (Two-way)
16. Travers (Two-way)
17. Killian Hayes (Exhibit 10?)
18. Tristan Enaruna (Exhibit 10?)
19. Chaney Johnson (Exhibit 10)
20. Norchad Omier (Exhibit 10)
21. Jaxson Robinson (Exhibit 10)

According to the wiretap, Robinson was signed and cut while Miller Kopp took the Exhibit 10 into camp.
Yup! Some guy named Warith Alatishe was signed and waived as well.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#360 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Sep 30, 2025 4:30 pm

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