Trade Ideas

[gflem]

At this point I'm willing to trade any of Garland, Hunter, Ball, Wade. Garland I'd want value for, the rest are guys I think we're better off just not paying above the 2nd apron.

Hunter has been a huge disappointment to me. I was pumped when we made the trade last season, but he is just soft. I didn't think he was some kind of enforcer but I didn't think teams would be able to push him around as easily as they do. He is a certainly a candidate to be moved after Struss comes back. He often looks lost on D, and he will hit a few shots then totally disappear. It's puzzling to me because he looks like a different player than what little of him I saw when we played the Hawks.

[mcfly1204]

At this point I'm willing to trade any of Garland, Hunter, Ball, Wade. Garland I'd want value for, the rest are guys I think we're better off just not paying above the 2nd apron.

Hunter has been a huge disappointment to me. I was pumped when we made the trade last season, but he is just soft. I didn't think he was some kind of enforcer but I didn't think teams would be able to push him around as easily as they do. He is a certainly a candidate to be moved after Struss comes back. He often looks lost on D, and he will hit a few shots then totally disappear. It's puzzling to me because he looks like a different player than what little of him I saw when we played the Hawks.

I think he may have what's referred to as "Wally Szczerbiak" syndrome, where one's body becomes inexplicably stiff.

[jbk1234]

The Cavs have 20 or so games before the deadline. I think they should use as many as they can in order to evaluate off the biggest data set they can (hopefully with more guys playing the role that was envisioned for them rather than being forced up the depth chart due to injuries).

No one is calling the Cavs with take it or leave it offers on Ball, Wade, Hunter, or a visibly injured Garland. We can't consolidate. Gilbert is unlikely to sign off on taking back long-term money in a Wade or Ball trade.

Pacers fans seem to think that Bradley could get released before the guarantee date. Doing the same with Thomas lord-have-mercy Bryant and signing Bradley would constitute an upgrade.

[toooskies]

The Cavs have 20 or so games before the deadline. I think they should use as many as they can in order to evaluate off the biggest data set they can (hopefully with more guys playing the role that was envisioned for them rather than being forced up the depth chart due to injuries).

No one is calling the Cavs with take it or leave it offers on Ball, Wade, Hunter, or a visibly injured Garland. We can't consolidate. Gilbert is unlikely to sign off on taking back long-term money in a Wade or Ball trade.

Pacers fans seem to think that Bradley could get released before the guarantee date. Doing the same with Thomas lord-have-mercy Bryant and signing Bradley would constitute an upgrade.

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

[jbk1234]

The Cavs have 20 or so games before the deadline. I think they should use as many as they can in order to evaluate off the biggest data set they can (hopefully with more guys playing the role that was envisioned for them rather than being forced up the depth chart due to injuries).

No one is calling the Cavs with take it or leave it offers on Ball, Wade, Hunter, or a visibly injured Garland. We can't consolidate. Gilbert is unlikely to sign off on taking back long-term money in a Wade or Ball trade.

Pacers fans seem to think that Bradley could get released before the guarantee date. Doing the same with Thomas lord-have-mercy Bryant and signing Bradley would constitute an upgrade.

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

I really like Bradley because he's the type of physical center the Cavs have been missing. Him holding his own against Mitchell Robinson and KAT was huge for the Pacers last year. I've seen enough of Allen and Mobley in those types of matchups that it's the one concern I have about a healthy Cavs team running into trouble in the playoffs.

[JujitsuFlip]

The Cavs have 20 or so games before the deadline. I think they should use as many as they can in order to evaluate off the biggest data set they can (hopefully with more guys playing the role that was envisioned for them rather than being forced up the depth chart due to injuries).

No one is calling the Cavs with take it or leave it offers on Ball, Wade, Hunter, or a visibly injured Garland. We can't consolidate. Gilbert is unlikely to sign off on taking back long-term money in a Wade or Ball trade.

Pacers fans seem to think that Bradley could get released before the guarantee date. Doing the same with Thomas lord-have-mercy Bryant and signing Bradley would constitute an upgrade.

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

I really like Bradley because he's the type of physical center the Cavs have been missing. Him holding his own against Mitchell Robinson and KAT was huge for the Pacers last year. I've seen enough of Allen and Mobley in those types of matchups that it's the one concern I have about a healthy Cavs team running into trouble in the playoffs.

Bradley seems very Ed Davis, RoLo, Kardashian, Bryant, Damian Jones type guy.

[ijspeelman]

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

I really like Bradley because he's the type of physical center the Cavs have been missing. Him holding his own against Mitchell Robinson and KAT was huge for the Pacers last year. I've seen enough of Allen and Mobley in those types of matchups that it's the one concern I have about a healthy Cavs team running into trouble in the playoffs.

Bradley seems very Ed Davis, RoLo, Kardashian, Bryant, Damian Jones type guy.

He seems more playable than those guys, but he's definitely of that mold. He's just someone who's proven they can be impactful with the right matchup

[toooskies]

The Cavs have 20 or so games before the deadline. I think they should use as many as they can in order to evaluate off the biggest data set they can (hopefully with more guys playing the role that was envisioned for them rather than being forced up the depth chart due to injuries).

No one is calling the Cavs with take it or leave it offers on Ball, Wade, Hunter, or a visibly injured Garland. We can't consolidate. Gilbert is unlikely to sign off on taking back long-term money in a Wade or Ball trade.

Pacers fans seem to think that Bradley could get released before the guarantee date. Doing the same with Thomas lord-have-mercy Bryant and signing Bradley would constitute an upgrade.

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

I really like Bradley because he's the type of physical center the Cavs have been missing. Him holding his own against Mitchell Robinson and KAT was huge for the Pacers last year. I've seen enough of Allen and Mobley in those types of matchups that it's the one concern I have about a healthy Cavs team running into trouble in the playoffs.

Where he had 8 points and 8 rebounds, 1 block, 0 steals in 38 minutes? Who's currently averaging 6.4 fouls per 36? He's been kicking around the back of NBA rosters and hasn't convinced any of his coaches that they can depend on him, splitting time with Thomas Bryant last year even in those playoffs where you say he was thriving. Bryant took his minutes in the final game of Pacers/Knicks.

Maybe you should take into account the guys who say he's at the end of the roster of a team who has relentlessly tried to replace him rather than give him a chance to play real minutes? He wouldn't be getting released from Indiana if he was actually, you know, playable.

[jbk1234]

You really like Bradley and I'm not sure why. Seems like a career garbage-time player that nobody wants to keep around.

(Not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to Bryant because that bar isn't very high, but he's not significantly altering the season outcome.)

You're right, though, in that we shouldn't expect a trade on December 15th.

I really like Bradley because he's the type of physical center the Cavs have been missing. Him holding his own against Mitchell Robinson and KAT was huge for the Pacers last year. I've seen enough of Allen and Mobley in those types of matchups that it's the one concern I have about a healthy Cavs team running into trouble in the playoffs.

Where he had 8 points and 8 rebounds, 1 block, 0 steals in 38 minutes? Who's currently averaging 6.4 fouls per 36? He's been kicking around the back of NBA rosters and hasn't convinced any of his coaches that they can depend on him, splitting time with Thomas Bryant last year even in those playoffs where you say he was thriving. Bryant took his minutes in the final game of Pacers/Knicks.

Maybe you should take into account the guys who say he's at the end of the roster of a team who has relentlessly tried to replace him rather than give him a chance to play real minutes? He wouldn't be getting released from Indiana if he was actually, you know, playable.

A would agree that 6.4 fouls per 36 is bad for a starter in the regular season. However, if it's a bench big in the playoffs, on the Cavs roster, I'd argue it's a good thing for a host of reasons. All I can tell you is that, having watched those games, he gave Robinson all he could handle and Myles Turner was able to check in fresh.